Apparently they didn't listen. Nothing is off the table. First time in my life government related research could say that. We will see I don't think Trump has ever had Tylenol
On Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 5:12 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/09/anti-vaccine-groups-melt-down-over-reports-rfk-jr-to-link-autism-to-tylenol/ > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 4:23 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Autism and Tylenol > > > > The diagnostic criteria for autism (and for that matter ADHD) have changed > a lot over the past couple decades. Any comparisons over time that don’t > take this into account will conclude there is an “epidemic” and start > looking for a “cause”. > > > > I guess I go back to my dad who was a food chemist (we’re talking a long > time ago) and he explained once to young me about how some chemicals had > limits for how much was allowed, while others the allowable level was zero, > which meant no detectable level. And measurement capability was always > advancing. So this meant the stuff with zero detectable level would become > a problem when it wasn’t previously. Not because they were adding more > mouse droppings to the hot dogs, but because they got better at detecting > mouse droppings. Or lead or mercury or whatever he was talking about. > > > > I am more familiar with the situation with ADHD because of a family > member, but anyone with kids knows lots are being diagnosed with ADHD while > in the past it was just written off as behavioral problems. So overall > maybe a good thing, unless they’re going too far the other way. The latest > thing I think is they’re diagnosing adults with ADHD, somehow that was > being ignored, like only kids have it. So again, not an epidemic, just a > change in diagnostic criteria. > > > > The other thing as someone already pointed out, is that correlation isn’t > causality. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 3:53 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Autism and Tylenol > > > > Oh jeez > > My boy needs to stop talking > > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 3:36 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > As long as pharma gets out of policy and "science" im good. have them > stick to development and limit their marketing. The can do > developmental science all day, but their scientist stay out of policy. > > > > I think it will be awesome funny if its not tyleneol and all the mopes > screeching about it being that before the announcement are wrong > > > > Tylenol has never been trustworthy no matter how well it works. I watched > the documentary on the tylenol killings recently, I was young so ony > remember the hootinanny but not the details. The levels they went to to > cover up the poisons in the manufacturing facilites was cray cray. > > > > Hevy tylenol use does correlate to the increase in precedence of the > autist revolution > > > > FYI, Im 99 percent sure Im an autist, but I cured it by being a dick, no > lie. But for real, its fucking miserable, being a dick helps a lot. So if > you know one of these jittery autists, take my word for it, every days a > bad day, unless its not, then its A-OK. Tylenol wasa regular staple in my > mom and grandmas cabinet > > > > Regardless of the announcement today, the mope dicks will say its wrong, > look now at the people already arguing against the science of it that they > havent even been presented. > > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 2:56 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > And yet apparently now glyphosate is fine, nothing to see here, move along. > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-tells-farmers-gop-not-to-worry-pesticides-report/ > > So for some reason Monsanto and farmers are safe but Kenvue has a target > on its back? Inquiring minds want to know. > > > > Actually RFK does some things I like (e.g. convincing food companies to > eliminate artificial dyes without making overt threats), but more that I > don’t, and he seems to be a dangerous quack just like people said he was. > He also seems to have lied during his confirmation hearings. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 2:39 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Autism and Tylenol > > > > But when do we get to see the short seller report? Cause I’m willing to > be it has some interesting names on it. > > > > Mark > > > > > > It is not publicly known who shorted Kenvue stock in the weeks leading up > to reports that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., as Health and Human Services (HHS) > secretary, was expected to link Tylenol to autism. Information about > short-selling activity is not immediately disclosed, and the Wall Street > Journal's September 5, 2025, report that caused the initial stock drop did > not name specific investors. > > Here is what is known about the short-selling and RFK Jr.'s actions: > > - The stock drop: Kenvue's stock fell more than 10% on Friday, > September 5, 2025, following the Wall Street Journal report that Kennedy > would likely announce a link between the company's Tylenol and autism. The > news was met with immediate pushback from Kenvue and the scientific > community, which states there is no evidence of a causal link. > - Institutional trades: Public records of large, institutional stock > sales and purchases are reported quarterly and are not available in > real-time. This means that the specific short-selling activity just before > the September 5 report is not publicly identified. > - Previous anti-vaccine and anti-pharma statements: The stock market > has reacted to Kennedy's anti-vaccine and anti-pharma positions before. For > example, vaccine-maker stocks fell in November 2024 when he was named to > lead HHS. This suggests that investors were aware of the potential for > market-moving statements from Kennedy related to public health and > pharmaceuticals. > - No proof of insider trading: There is no public evidence suggesting > any illegal insider trading occurred in this instance. For short-selling to > be considered illegal insider trading, it would need to be proven that an > investor received and acted upon specific, non-public information about > Kennedy's announcement. > > > > On Sep 22, 2025, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Every single vaccine without thought? > > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 2:13 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, you will get no argument from me. But I am crazy enough to take > every vaccine I can get too... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince > > The HHS (or NIH or CDC or some combination of the three) are going to > blame Tylenol for autism soon. > > However, I just listened to a science-based podcast that looked into the > matter. There is a 20% increase in the probability that correlates Tylenol > with autism (in some reports), BUT the studies that did find the > correlation did not factor in secondary and tertiary conditions like the > mother's age or that she had a fever (for which she probably took Tylenol). > When they factored in those situations, the 20% correlation flat-lined (AKA > went away). > > Correlation is not causation is the watch phrase. > > RFK does not know how to read medical reports. > > > -- > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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