Oh yes, there's value in it for us as ISP's. In an MDU where we provide the 
router and it does dual stack correctly, I see more like 75-80% of traffic on 
IPv6.  30-40% overall network-wide sounds right.  When games support IPv6, you 
avoid NAT related issues, yes.

  When referring to most "most business", I'm referring to customers.


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V6 is quite fast, and since most of NAT is not in v6, its actually faster than 
v4 in many cases, not to mention v6 just works and works quite well.  We have 
deployed it on many networks and we see around 30-40% of traffic using v6. If 
you have it Netflix,amazon, youtube etc will all use v6.  So there is reason to 
deploy it, just most do not see it.  Gaming is a big one, as if you are using 
xbox it will use v6, playstation, not so much.



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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Prefix Delegation Use Cases



I've talked with people on Quora about IPv6, and there are still a lot of 
naysayers.  When does naysaying rise to the level of backlash?  Is it when 
they're angry about it?



There's more apathy than anything else though.  Most businesses can live with a 
handful of public IP's and they're able to get them.  For them, the cost of 
IPv6 is greater than $0 and the benefit is $0.  The simple cost-benefit 
analysis says they'll never implement it until their hand is forced.  
Residential doesn't give a crap.  They're using it if their router correctly 
supports dual stack out of the box, which for me was a 1 out of 3 chance last 
time I bought a router --about 4 years ago, I had to buy 3 routers which all 
said "IPv6" on the box in order to find one that actually worked.









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On a side note, with all the backlash against modernity and wistfulness for the 
distant past, I’m surprised there isn’t a backlash against IPv6.  Real men burn 
coal and use IPv4.  IPv6 is woke, like windmills and EVs.  IPv4, made in 
America!



From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Adam Moffett
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Subject: [AFMUG] Prefix Delegation Use Cases



Speaking of prefix delegation, has anybody ever proposed what a home network is 
supposed to do with them?  I believe the intent of handing out a /56 is that 
the customer can create up to 256 /64 subnets, but why?



If I was to subnet at home, I could imagine doing it to isolate security risks: 
Like creating VLANs and subnets for IoT, security system, guest WiFi, and my 
personal devices.  That's four.  I can't imagine a use for 16, let alone 256, 
and nobody (even if they know how) is going to do that unless it's automatic.  
I have a notion that there could be a protocol for devices to announce a 
classification that they belong to, and a router could sort them into VLANs and 
subnets automatically.  You'd do it to isolate the WiFi refrigerator from the 
computers and phones because when the fridge model is discontinued it stops 
getting security updates, but you're not turning it off because food still 
needs to stay cold.  That Harry Potter sorting hat protocol doesn't exist, but 
I could imagine it.



Are there any other ideas out there for what the heck someone is supposed to do 
with a /56 prefix delegation?




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