Reminds me of a chat I just had with the safety guy.  When people are
working in the field independently, you can give them all the training and
tools to be compliant with OSHA but you can't realistically make them do
it.

I also have never seen people tied off on a residential roof.  I could
assume a lot of things about why, and I'd start with lower stakes, lower
ability to pay fines, and lower chance of anyone reporting them.

I wonder if Dish Network's "chargeback" system forces their hand.  When
they charge the installer for using the wrong color grommet, they've
documented that someone went out and saw the dish that must have been
installed by Batman.  Seems like they've created the evidence OSHA could
use against them, so they'd better do something about it.


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I’ve never seen anyone actually doing that.  Maybe on a commercial building.

For that matter, I’ve never seen roofers tied off at a residential job.
Maybe in that case they send ICE not OSHA.  Or feed the dead body to the
pigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUynRdzzsM



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Years ago, I gave the installers long ropes and throwing weights to toss
over the roofs.  On one side they were to be tied off to an anchor of some
sort, truck bumper, screwed in ground anchor.  Then they were to clip into
a sliding fall arrestor and tie the rope to the top of the ladder.  It did
give 100% tie off but none of them wanted to use it and I didn't push it.




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In the fixed wireless business, we’ve all tended to ignore rules about fall
protection, with installers up on roofs without 100% tie off.  Quite awhile
ago, many sat TV installers edicted that all roof installs must be done
from the ladder, which is often possible if you’re shooting at the sky.  No
going up on the roof.  (Or maybe don’t tell the boss if you do?)



The theory was that with Starlink you’d just set it up on your deck, no
ladder required.  But most of the installs I see are at the peak of the
roof, not sure how many of them can be done while standing on a ladder.
And it’s hard to tell how many were DIY installs vs “professional
installation”.



Now that DISH is doing the installs for Starlink, and given they were the
ones telling installers not to go up on the roof, I wonder if that’s how
they’re doing Starlink installs as well.  J-arm on the soffit seems to be a
popular mounting method.
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