Longest shot we have made work is 4.7 with a kP  dish.   -73 but link tests are 
not that great. 83/73 and it is in 4x    I'm planning on removing all our 3.65 
450 gear and going with 2.4 450.  The power is much better but migration from 
FSK 2.4 is a bigger pain 

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> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:14, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> We did a bare SM the other day 0.6 miles –58 and 8X in a 10 MHz channel, that 
> tells me we can go a lot farther without a dish, probably 1.5 miles or more.  
> Or are you talking about through trees?  I have not been impressed with 
> performance through trees, even with a dish.  But I’m not happy with –80 and 
> 4X, I don’t want to eat up all the capacity on such an expensive piece of 
> gear with just a few subs.  And I don’t want customers  calling every time 
> the leaves get wet or covered with snow.
>  
> At some point I think we’ll see something similar to the Force100 but for now 
> it’s a dish or a connectorized SM with a panel.  When I asked about a 
> Stinger/CLIP type of product, I was told the size at 2.4 or 3.65 GHz get too 
> big or else the gain isn’t worth it.
>  
> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 pmp450 results - was Dear Cambium
>  
>  
> We didn't get very far without a dish ; what are you seeing in terms of how 
> far you can get before you have a dish?
> Are you using a dish with most, or is there a stinger available or something 
> "mid-term" ?
>  
> Must be honest, we haven't tried the dish yet.  Need to very soon as fall is 
> basically here...
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Milholen via Af
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
>  
> Chris,
> We are rockin 3.65 450 AB channels replacing 90% of our 900 subs. Migration 
> is taking time due to cap X.
> I took down our first 900AP which was our first aP900 installed last week.
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/2014 4:34 PM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote:
>> I love the 450, 450 is awesome, but 90% of our subs are on 900 MHz, what do 
>> we do there, where is our upgrade path, what is the replacement for PMP100 
>> in 900 MHz?  
>> We have no alternative to 900 for most of our customers where we are, too 
>> many hills and trees.  We are still deploying 900 MHz radios in large 
>> quantities simply because we can't use anything else.  Sure would be nice to 
>> have an easy way to configure those radios, we (Animal Farm) have only been 
>> asking for that feature for the last 8 years, not like they didn't know 
>> about it or have the time to figure it out.  Now they are giving it to us, 
>> but only on a platform where we don't really need it yet.
>> 
>> While I understand that PMP100 is somewhat antiquated, Cambium is still 
>> making money on it and will continue to make money on it, so why not give us 
>> at least some development beyond bug fixes at least until there is a 900 
>> replacement?  Why not a 450 in 900 MHz that's using the newer hardware but 
>> still only 2x modulation. We would literally buy thousands of them within 
>> the next year.
>> 
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