The UBNT routers only have two cores don't they? I would assume BGP being 
multi-threaded would be much less of an issue since the individual cores are 
(I'm assuming) a lot faster than on the CCR.


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From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Josh Reynolds 
via Af [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

Since when are tilera cores the same as cavium cores?

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On 09/25/2014 09:08 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:
If that�s the case, are you saying the Ubiquiti routers which use the same 
processors will have that same limitation?
�
Rory
�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Burgess via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:59 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
For the moment, anything with more than 1 full bgp feed really should be a x86 
product, in v7 that may change, but the limited CPU for BGP in the CCRs is a 
major factor in our designs for our customers.
�
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> � 314-735-0270 � 
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�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
James Howard via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
I�m a bit confused.� What symptoms did you see with your routers?� What I 
got from Chris� description was that the CCR caused his Edge router to 
bomb.� Replacing the CCR didn�t fix the problem until they rebooted the 
Edge router.� Did your routers cause other routers to degrade or crash?
�
I�m not sure about there being an issue with 6.19 on the CCR but I can tell 
you that we saw a similar situation with a CCR that had 6.17 (or possibly 
older, not sure when we updated it) recently.� I would suspect that he�s 
having an issue with BGP on the CCR.� In our case, the CCR had 2 full BGP 
tables, PPPOE and OSPF on it.� It took down one of the BGP peers on the Edge 
router (PowerRouter V3 in our case).� I disabled the BGP peer on the Edge for 
about 5 minutes and everything worked happily.� When I started it back up, 
everything was fine until it randomly happened again.� We then shut down the 
BGP link between the PowerRouter and the CCR.� The CCR does not seem to be 
able to handle more than one BGP table if it�s doing anything else.� 
Another CCR seems to be happy as an edge router with 2 full tables on it.� 
It�s not doing any other function though and we are in process of ordering an 
x86 replacement.
�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory 
Conaway via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:38 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
No, our needs are much simpler but we saw similar issues on 5 routers from 
750�s to 1100�s.� Went back to 6.15 and haven�t had a problem in 3 
weeks.
�
Rory
�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Chris Wright via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
Rory, thanks for your reply. Is your setup fairly similar to ours? PPPoE, 
Accounting, and BGP all done by the Mikrotik? How many sessions do you have and 
what kind of throughput?
�
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless<http://www.velociter.net/>
�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory 
Conaway via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:16 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
On the older routers, we went back to 6.15 and things have been rock solid.� 
We saw similar problems with 6.19.
�
Rory
�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
James Howard via Af
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:39 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
Have you tried taking down the BGP session on the Edge router for a couple 
minutes and then restart it?
�
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris 
Wright via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:37 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
�
CCR-1036 running RouterOS 6.19
�
After some serious amounts of testing, we felt our CCR was ready to take the 
plunge. The core router talks BGP to our two Imagestream Edge routers and gets 
all 500k+ routes from each in about three minutes. Its PPPoE server manages to 
authenticate the bulk of nearly 1800 customers in four minutes. All�s fine 
and dandy for about 12 hours, then not so fine and dandy things start 
happening. Overall traffic that should be near 600mbps seems to top off around 
400mbps. Edge 1 goes unresponsive, VRRP doesn�t kick in on Edge 2 and the 
entire network degrades. All devices on our public switch go partially 
unresponsive to pings including our DNS servers, other various VM�s, and ESXi 
hosts themselves.
�
Here�s the fun part: We took the CCR out, just flat out unplugged it and 
turned on our old Core routers. They start authenticating customers but 
they�re insanely slow in doing it. It�s not until we reboot our Edge 1 
router that things get back to normal and the old Core routers authenticate at 
acceptable speeds. Could the CCR be inducing a problem in our Edge routers 
perhaps?
�
�
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless<http://www.velociter.net/>
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