If you're an ISP and you run back-end infrastructure on Windows, I feel
sorry for you....

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:23 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> simpledns is windows based though, even though microsoft is pretty much
> giving away virtual server licenses these days, theres still that cost, and
> I just dont like exposing windows to the world, which is odd because Im a
> windows guy.
> Another reason is if there is a windows server, somebody will install
> software to it.
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Nicholas Eastman via Af <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> To throw my 2 cents in, +1 for Ajenti for managing servers, I've used
>> webmin and ajenti both and like the performance/stripped down approach of
>> Ajenti better. Also +1 for cPanel once you get into allowing customers to
>> manage/update DNS on their own. We host our own DNS server that is locked
>> for our use, and sell hosting packages on another with cPanel, we've moved
>> several customers over, and besides the occasional enterprise with a random
>> computer trying to force a DNS update, it works well.
>>
>> Nicholas Eastman
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> (217) 965-3699
>> 1-877-400-9319
>> [email protected]
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Josh Baird via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If it's BIND 9.8.2 from the CentOS updates repositories, it's patched.
>>> It won't contain non-security related features of later versions, but it
>>> has been patched for any security related stuff.  The internal
>>> patch/version level of the package is denoted in the RPM's filename for EL.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   I don’t think so.
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Adam Moffett via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 8:34 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>
>>>> It may be 9.8.2 with security fixes backported from later versions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I would disagree, didn’t Steve say the latest he updated to was 9.8.2?
>>>>
>>>> https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00913/0/BIND-9-Security-Vulnerability-Matrix.html
>>>>
>>>> ISC shows 9.8.8 EOL as of September 2014, so 9.8.2 is quite a few
>>>> versions old.  With all the DNS amplification attacks and these zero day
>>>> exploits coming out all the time, I’d want to be pretty current, plus I
>>>> believe 9.10 gives you RRL in your toolbox to deal with attacks although
>>>> I’ll admit I haven’t had time to experiment with it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 6:10 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>
>>>>  The server based distributions like CentOS\RHEL and Debian generally
>>>> are close to current regarding security updates even if they don't have the
>>>> latest version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 2, 2014 5:30:01 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>
>>>>  You need a named.conf that defines the slave zones and the IP address
>>>> of the master.
>>>>
>>>> But first step is to download/compile/install the latest version of
>>>> BIND, it’s actually quite easy.  I doubt you can get the version you want
>>>> via yum update because CentOS is based on RHEL which is always a few steps
>>>> behind.  Given the DNS attacks, you want the latest BIND.  You might then
>>>> want to lock out the package from being updated by yum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>
>>>>  So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind install.
>>>> We have one master, one slave server
>>>> I have never set up bind, this was done before me.
>>>> If I were to take down the old slave server and bring this one up on
>>>> its IP will the master update this one, or is there a config I need to move
>>>> over. Im more comfotable doing the slave first.
>>>> These are all webmin, but the original is ubuntu and the new is centos
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I always install CentOS bare bones …. “minimal server” is what the
>>>>> installation will call it.  This way you can install whatever you like
>>>>> after installation and not worry about removing many dozen packages you
>>>>> don’t need…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my preference anyways….
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>>>>> via Af
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 questions in this
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. when running through the current centos installation, what do i
>>>>> select for the server type, for powercode it says select basic server
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. is there a guide for building dedicated centos servers based on
>>>>> server purpose? I assume there are packages I dont need to install if its
>>>>> only got this purpose
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  CentOS+BIND+Webmin J  I can’t remember but Usermin might be the part
>>>>> you’re looking for specific to users updating their own DNS…..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>>>>> via Af
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:21 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a good, simple package for locally hosted DNS Servers for
>>>>> people like me who dont want to get too far into managing the linux at a
>>>>> granular level? we are used to the webmin interface. It would be nice if 
>>>>> it
>>>>> had the option to set up client accounts for some clients to manage their
>>>>> own DNS but not view others, but thats in no way a deal breaker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>

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