Jeremy,

I am glad this worked out well for you financially.  Most people have been very 
unhappy with the effect of this, and in then we ALL pay for any costs that are 
lowered, subsidized etc.   Financially for this country as a whole, today and 
in the future, Obamacare is a disaster.  There is NO free lunch system that 
doesn’t cost everyone the same money, plus bureaucratic and administration 
costs to get the results.  It just doesn’t work that way.  Insurance company 
profits are at an al- time high.  TPA’s profits are at an all-time high.

Glad I’m making decent money doing what I do …   blessed and grateful

Paul


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeremy via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 10:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

We pay about the same as we did but our deductible is lower, our out of pocket 
max is lower, and they covered our pregnancy.  We switched during the first 
trimester because we didn't have maternity coverage (no self-insured plans in 
our state had it), and Obamacare made pregnancy not count as a pre-existing 
condition.  It saved us about $7,000-$8,000 this year.  The craziest part is 
that we actually stayed with the same provider, Select Health (IHC).  It was 
just the difference between them providing maternity and not providing 
maternity.  We have been very happy with our Obamacare.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Further the subsidies have been deemed unconstitutional, so they're forcing us 
to pay insurance with the promise of subsidies that they are now going to take 
away.

Bait and switch.

The whole thing has been a screwup from day one.

It is actually cheaper for me to pay out of pocket than pay for this insurance, 
but the fines will get you either way.


----- Original Message -----
From: Rory Conaway via Af<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

And so did the quality and options of your care.  I know that 2 of my doctors 
retired early and the other one doesn’t take Obamacare.   Fortunately I don’t 
have to use it.

Here is my question though, doesn’t the fact that the federal government wasted 
a couple billion dollars of your taxes on websites that don’t work, companies 
that are paying workers to do nothing, and companies that are friends with the 
First Lady with no bid process in place?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:00 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare

Please don't forget that this whole "obamacare" thing was "invented" by the 
American Heratage Foundation which is a republican think tank.  And the 
republicans tried to squash "Hillarycare" with it in the 1990's.

Be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.

Also, so far in the states that set up their own exchanges medical costs and 
premiums have been going down...mine sure did :)

2cents

Sean

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014, Travis Johnson via Af 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi...

I'm not sure exactly how this ObamaCare thing was supposed to "save everyone 
money" and provider "better health care". We just received our group health 
insurance premium notice for the upcoming year, and our rates will go up by 10% 
starting 2015.

On top of that, everyone is now paying a 3% ObamaCare tax on their personal 
income taxes. This doesn't really seem like much of a savings to me... :(

Travis

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