What “teeth” do you expect WISPA to have?

From: That One Guy via Af 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:31 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?

Non UBNT fanboys would agree that UBNT is the most abused set of systems we 
use, note the dismay over losing "test mode" or whatever its called and the 
backlash I got for snitching on a vendor who was selling non US radios to US 
customers. UBNT wants to market themselves a a big player, but they cant even 
get the systems to do simple  if and or  
for the most part in my experience of dealing with mikrotik guys, they take 
their spectrum stewardship seriously, Ive not dealt with all the tik guys, 
there are probably alot who abuse it too, and shame on them for that, but tik 
isnt as prevalent in the industry as UBNT is.
I personally dont like the temptation to cheat, we are changing out a rocket 
link with a 650 right now that would work fine at full power in the lower 5gz, 
and I would never get caught, instead we are shedding customers while we are 
putting up the replacement tommorrow. Most folks wold just cheat it to get 
through, thats why WISPA has no real teeth

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

  I don't believe the FCC has issued any DFS related violations that didn't 
include interfering with TDWR. It seems like as long as you don't interfere 
with TDWR, no one cares.




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





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  From: "That One Guy via Af" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:48:31 PM 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?


  it only sets in the ap if you select a channel, if you give it a list it 
stays at full power. I wish WISPA would realize that they have absolutely no 
teeth and our membership dues have no return until our industry takes 
stewardship of the spectrum seriously. Its things like this that ensure the 
5ghz rules are here to stay, WISPA has a better chance of sticking a straw up a 
unicorns hind end and blowing rainbow bubbles out its nose than getting the 
rules changed. 

  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

    That really bothers me too... the AP side will limit it to the legal limit 
(assuming you have the antenna size set properly), but the clients do not... 
I'm guessing there are an awful lot of NanoBridges out there running at 23dBm 
Tx power on DFS channels - which should be limited to 5dBm.

    UBNT really needs to fix that.
     


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    From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of That One Guy via Af 
[[email protected]]
    Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:34 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?


    I dont like that theyre not limiting power in those bands automatically, I 
thought they were supposed to

    On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jason McKemie via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

      I didn't know the 5GHz Power Bridges ever had the ability to go that low 
(legally).

      On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Heith Petersen via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        I assume that this does not apply to the Power Bridges. I am scared to 
update the few that are running 5.2 on older firmware to find out ;)



        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
        Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:33 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?



        Go to the UBNT web site.  You have to register & they will send you 
stickers and an activation key that you enter on the System tab in the GUI.




bpOn 10/22/2014 9:51 AM, Sam Lambie via Af wrote:

          Where the heck would one get an update key and how do you enter it 
into the radio? These radios are about 3 years old. This particular one worked 
just fine on Firmware 5.3 in 5.2...



          On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          I don't know. I've got ~9 Nanobridge M5 out there feeding towers on 
short hops, all listed UNII1 and half the links are running it.

          Is this possibly an older unit before the UNII 2 band was enabled 
from factory? I wonder if the update key has to be entered to access UNII 1.







            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Sam Lambie via Af 

            To: [email protected] 

            Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:46 AM

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?



            Ok, I have a radio on the bench with 5.5.10 loaded and all I see is 
the 5.8 band in AP mode. what am I missing?



            On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af 
<[email protected]> wrote

              Works quite nicely. I've got a few out there. Nice to have 500+ 
MHz between feeds.





                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: Mike Hammett via Af 

                To: [email protected] 

                Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:32 AM

                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?



                Firmware 5.5.10 (actually, one of its betas was the first to 
offer it).



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                Mike Hammett
                Intelligent Computing Solutions
                http://www.ics-il.com






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                From: "Sam Lambie via Af" <[email protected]>
                To: [email protected]
                Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:30:14 AM
                Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?

                I heard somewhere at WISPApalooza that the M series does 5.2 
band now? Is that smoke and mirrors?

                Sam



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    All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
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  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925






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All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

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