They should just buy us all up.  Think of the home security potential.  I see 
great reward in that market but have no clue how to do it right !

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> On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What's more amazing is the valuation/sale they just received about a year 
> ago... the founder sold 50% of the company for $2bn. 
> 
> $360 million a year in revenue, even at 50% profit margin, is $180 million 
> profit. It will take 11 years to make that money back, but they only own 
> 50%... so it would take 22 years to make that money back. They must see huge 
> potential with the company and future projects.
> 
> Travis
> 
>> On 10/23/2014 10:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>> Vivint claims an installed base of 800,000 and $30 million in monthly 
>> revenue (http://www.vivint.com/company/about-us).  That's not chump change.
>> 
>> It would appear that their fixed wireless internet product is a small part 
>> of their overall enterprise.
>> bp
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2014 8:55 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>> Is it kind of a Trojan Horse thing?  Get in the door selling Internet, then 
>>> sell them home security and that’s where they make the real money?
>>>  
>>> BTW, I’m not knocking that approach.  I think we underestimate the power of 
>>> DISH, Direct, VZ/AT&T Wireless, they are already inside the castle walls 
>>> and upselling the customer to increase their ARPU.  As you drive around 
>>> your coverage area, imagine you had the email address and phone number of 
>>> every target customer, and were already billing them monthly, and could 
>>> stick flyers in the bills, and send texts to their phones, and to the 
>>> customer your service was just another line item in that bundle.  Of course 
>>> they may also hate you, but you have to rise to a pretty high hate level 
>>> for people to cancel their bundle.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Travis Johnson via Af
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
>>>  
>>> 20,000 - 30,000 subs in a year and half is great... but they have probably 
>>> $20mm into it, and they are dumping more money (millions) into it as 
>>> well.... it's a "play" thing for them. Kind of like Google's "fiber across 
>>> the ocean" project... something cool, but not really your core business.
>>> 
>>> Travis
>>> 
>>>> On 10/23/2014 8:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
>>>> Yeah, but they got that far...  in a year? Year and a half?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Travis Johnson via Af" mailto:[email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:30:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
>>>> 
>>>> Well, they only have about 150,000 more subs to go... :)
>>>> 
>>>> Travis
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/23/2014 6:35 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
>>>> *nods* They've been doing this for over a year. Last year at WISPAPALOOZA 
>>>> they had like 30 people there. Some expect them to overtake JAB as the 
>>>> largest WISP in the states.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "TJ Trout via Af" mailto:[email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:43:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint wireless
>>>> 
>>>> Where have you been? Lol search the list :]
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2014 8:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Spoke to young guys from Vivint
>>>>> Today at lunch and they are beta testing 50 x 50 mbps wireless using a 
>>>>> fiber fed hub and then cover a neighborhood.  Testing here and Utah 
>>>>> somewhere.  They work for automation branch and didnt know particulars.   
>>>>> Anyone hear about this?
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
> 

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