Maybe, but of course this was between 11 and 5 years ago. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Hass, Douglas A. via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Cameron--When you owned your WISP, you dodged a bullet. Your installers > were quite likely employees, not contractors. J > > > > Quick note for everyone on this list: if you have ANYONE that you’re > paying on a contract basis to do work for your business (cash, 1099, etc.) > and NOT as an employee, hit me up off list. You’re quite likely betting > your company’s future existence on it. Some rolls of the dice come out > o.k., as with Cameron’s situation. Many times they don’t. If you get a > claim, you could lose your WISP. Wage and hour mistakes are that serious. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum via > Af > *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:21 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee damaging equipment > > > > When I owned a wisp my installers were contractors so I made them bring > their own tools. I figured they'd take better care if them. Then, while > changing a radio on a customers house I found a Dewalt cordless drill on > top of the chimney. I asked the owner if it was his, and he said no. I > asked my installer the next day. Turns out he left it there almost a year > earlier. Go figure. > > On Oct 23, 2014 10:14 PM, "That One Guy via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I lost a ladder (pretty sure i left it behind a house after a loong full > day install) I replaced it, had I not, I would have expected my employer to > fire me. > > > > I fried a 500 dollar switch because I pulled an old radio off a tower but > never disconnected the POE, it shorted out. I offered to pay but the boss > wrote it off, I didnt turn in the equivalent amount of overtime to offset > the cost. I was not happy I wasnt held accountable. > > > > I lost a surveillance camera, so I had them order a replacement and deduct > it from my pay, after it arrived, I found the first one on the shelf in the > van where I looked three times, I now have a camera, I should have been > fired at this point, three substantial items in under 5 years. > > > > I had a #10 wrench slide off a roof into the snow never to be seen again, > I didnt like that wrench anyway so i went to the hardware store and bough a > ratchet wrench on the bosses dime. > > > > There is expected loss, the occasional hand tool, broken drill bits, zip > ties, etc. but pretty much anything over 50 bucks, unless its a pretty > valid reason should be the employees responsibility. You owners pay us to > do a job, as with any job the things you provide cost you real money, youre > not paying us to spend that money needlessly, when we waste your money we > are accountable for the consequences, either financial or job applications. > Not holding us accountable creates a dangerous dynamic in a workplace. You > let us slide on a 300 dollar ladder, how careful will we be with a 2500 > dollar trencher or 5k radio? > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Jeremy via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well I extremely appreciate the specific FLSA laws on this matter and the > creative ways of dealing with the solution (for those employees who are not > our brothers). Thanks Josh and Travis. > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm not going to screw him over or anything. He offered to pay for the > ladder on his own, just the way we were raised. > > You break it, you bought it. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:51 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee damaging equipment > > > > He said it was his brother right ? Who cares! Your brother is your > blood. Sh!t happens > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > Federal labor law says you can't hold employees financial responsible > for broken/lost tools. (from my understanding) > > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com > > On 10/23/2014 04:22 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: > > How do you guys handle it when an employee damages or loses equipment? > > This is my baby brother's first job. He tied the ladder and it fell out of > the truck, no where to be found. > > He said he's going to either get me one or pay me back, just curious how > everyone else handles this. > > I've never run into it yet. > > � > > > > > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > > *Douglas A. 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