The big guys take care of the diesel tanks by either running their own
filtration/conditioning system or having a contractor come out every
couple of months and process the fuel through a polishing system. Not
cheap but necessary with diesel standby systems.
Mark
On 10/27/14, 9:48 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Yeahbut, your tests are generally once a week for 15 minutes, without
load. You might burn a gallon of fuel. If you have a 1500 gallon
tank, that is a lot of weeks (28 years...) worth of test runs. Even a
500 gallon tank would last almost 10 years on test runs along. Yes,
they come along and top it off a couple of times a year but that does
not do much to dilute the bad fuel with new.
There are microbes that eat diesel. Not sure if the additives kill
them completely or not.
It must work because lots of large telecom sites have diesel tanks. I
have always been LP or NG if I could get it.
*From:* Mike Hammett via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 7:36 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator question
I believe they make treatments to reduce the "staleness" of stored
diesel. You'll also be burning some during your regularly scheduled
load tests as well, right? *nudge* ;-)
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*From: *"Chuck McCown via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Monday, October 27, 2014 8:28:57 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Generator question
I dislike diesel due to the inevitable mess and the fact it goes
stale, has
cold weather issues etc.
If the disaster is bad enough to shut off the NG pipes, I think I
don't want
to be at work.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rex-List Account via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator question
Just to throw another curve into your thinking - what is your
reasoning on
the generator? Disaster recovery? Frequent power outages due to storms
and
such?
As a thirty plus year vet at a phone company and a twenty five plus
year vet
on the fire department let me give you this to ponder. If it is for
frequent
power outages
due to electrical storms, ice, and/or poor power lines then NG is fine.
However it has been my experience that in disaster scenarios like
earthquakes (ok I haven't actually
seen this one) severe storms/tornadoes (I have seen way too many of
these)
then one of the first things the fire department does is shut down the
natural gas pipelines.
Too many houses destroyed and the possibilities of way too many leaks. I
personally would go with diesel fuel. Almost always available - can be
easily trucked in. LP can be
hard to source and price fluctuates in the winter. There is always a
farmer
or construction company around with diesel. NG is defiantly more
convenient,
but in a true disaster
situation it may not be available. Just my two cents worth.
Rex
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber
Broadcasting) via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Generator question
So I have a unique situation at our office. We're looking at a Generac
QuietSource 22 or 30kW running on NG. I'm not dead set on that, but those
are very nice and quiet 1800RPM. And the problem is, our building is
really
old and is split in half with two separate 240 services coming in. And
I do
have an old empty 1-1/4" conduit between the two utility closets. The two
services is actually nice because a lot of times, one side will have
power
when the other doesn't. One comes from the north, the other from the
south.
There's no way we can rewire and combine everything into one service
feed.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around how to do something like two
auto-transfer
switches on one generator. I have critical stuff to run on both sides.
Probably need a qualified electrician or engineer, but I thought I'd ask
here for suggestions before we go down that road and pay someone to
come up
with something that I most likely wouldn't like.
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Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
[email protected] 419.837.5015 x 1021
