I'd think it'd make their job easier. They don't fully develop a product and 
then have to rebuild it because they did it wrong. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Mathew Howard via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:17:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 



I would love to do that too... even if they didn't listen to us, at least I'd 
get the satisfaction of being able to say "I told you so" when they release it 
and everyone complains about it being made wrong. 




From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:07 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 




I formally invite all vendors to tell me what they're thinking of making (NDA 
is fine) and I'll tell you what you need to change before you even start 
building it. I'll even rate them as "Don't release it with(out) this feature", 
"Would buy, but if it had X feature, I'd marry it" and "Meh". 

I'd like to think that I'm very good at telling you where you messed up, but 
that I will also help you work through it if afforded the opportunity. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Mathew Howard via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:03:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 



It really does affect a lot of our vendors, but I would have to say MikroTik is 
the worst. They are really good at making products that are almost perfect, but 
then they screw up one or two things really badly. 



From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:53 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 




I'd say that problem afflicts many of our vendors, though MT and UBNT are at 
the top of the list. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Tyler Treat via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:51:25 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 


you know that's the weird thing about Mikrotik. As much as i love their gear, 
it seems like they have a bad habit of producting *almost* the right product. 



From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Mathew Howard via Af 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:41 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 



An 850x2 in an UP version would be good, if they fix that L2MTU issue... 
otherwise, even a 2011 in an UP version would be alright - I'd even settle for 
a 2011 with PoE out on all five 10/100 ports. 



From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:35 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 




Oh, I didn't know that. 

Then yes, pitch the 850. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Stefan Englhardt via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:30:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 



The 850x2 has a small L2MTU which renders it useless for MPLS/VPLS … 




Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:29 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 


Like if they made the 850x2 a UP version? 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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----- Original Message -----


From: "Mathew Howard via Af" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:38:44 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 


And at least some of those POE out ports need to be Gigabit. 

I really, really wish Mikrotik would make a bigger, better version of the 
RB750UP... it's a great design, but it needs to a bit more power (and 
gigabit)... more ports would be nice too, but at least I can just use a whole 
stack of them to get around that. 




From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Paul McCall via Af [[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:26 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 


And POE Out as an option on a bunch of ports !! 



From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting) via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:44 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what i need....mikrotik 


Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots, two 
5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two extra ports 
for whatever. 

On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: 


Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock... 
I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a Terminal jack 
near the AC power port (You know the little green ones with screws in them 
)..� 
For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so hard to 
have a little thing like that :( 



On 10/29/2014 5:59 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: 
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RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200. 

bp 
On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: 
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� 

OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via 
POE. 

does such a beast exist?� Hook me up with a model # please 

� 

thanks 

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