You can monitor TX/RX rates on both ends of all links now. That is a direct correlation to what the link is capable of. The only caveat is that when an 802.11 radio is telling you "X", that the actual throughput it's capable of is more like 55% of "X". I monitor all of these on all of our links, and when a link goes down to 80% of "X" then I know I have trouble in River City (or Black Rock if you prefer).

bp

On 10/30/2014 1:05 PM, Shayne Lebrun via Af wrote:

This. Say my AP can do ten megs/second of downlink to clients. My throughput chart is flatlined at 6 mb/s.

Why? Is it because some of the clients are in lower modulations, and using more timeslots to move a given amount of data than they should? Is it that the radio is doing lots of retransmitting? If so, who?

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You're missing the point.

I want to know what the air interface is doing. It may be completely stopped up by retransmissions or bad clients, yet that isn't easily seen by other means (CPU usage, IRQ usage, throughput, etc.).



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*From: *"Stefan Englhardt via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:33:51 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Feature Request of all radio manufacturers: Radio utilization or duty cycle meters

.a has only 54Mbit/s Phy rate. RB800 is quite powerful.

With N/AC you see a lot more cpu work.

With TDMA protocol the cpu has to work in fixed cycles with low latency.

So if it is busy while it has to send the next map for the cpes at an exact timing

the whole sector suffers.

So the cpu should stay at a low level to keep the protocol running.

*Von:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett via Af
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The CPU usage doesn't tell you RF congestion, retransmits, etc. It just tells you how busy the CPU is. If you're running NV2 on an A card in an RB800, your CPU is going to be low, but your radio is going to be very busy and yet not including that information.



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*From: *"Stefan Englhardt via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:19:30 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Feature Request of all radio manufacturers: Radio utilization or duty cycle meters

This is not quite right. TDMA Protocols like NV2 and Airmax are CPU limited.

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*Von:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett via Af
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CPU is largely unrelated to what the radio is doing.



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*From: *"Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:05:45 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Feature Request of all radio manufacturers: Radio utilization or duty cycle meters

You can get a CPU load metric from UBNT radios (example below).

bp

On 10/30/2014 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

    I want to see utilization or duty cycle meters. Tell me how busy
    the AP is so I know how much more can fit... and break down into
    different categories why it's busy. TX, Rx, retransmit, overhead,
    MCS 15, MCS 0, which stations are using what percent, etc.

    I'd say that knowing how busy the radio is is more important than
    knowing how many bits are flowing through it.



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