Baird should have the longer masts equivalent to the Rohn product in stock. I've experienced problems with actually getting Rohn FRM, JRM or BRM in a timely manner from the US distributors, who supposedly keep them in stock, while Baird sells directly.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:26 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > so we ordered two BRM44510 > Nobody had 10' masts in stock > So we just ordered some 4" water pipe > luckily my buddy told me these masts have fins and a plate welded to them, > so we cancelled the pipe > but we need to now find the masts again > The Rohn PN is KY2065 according to the catalog, but the vendors we have > checked with dont have them on hand > anybody know of a non rapist vendor that would stock these? > we are down to 53 days of a 60 day deadline > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> What I'm saying is that with a little creativity, you can replicate >> many open frame non-penetrating type mounts with unistrut. Unistrut is >> like an adult's version of an erector set. >> >> bp >> >> On 10/30/2014 11:34 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: >> >> I can put the pipe on the opposing side so the antenna sits above the >> ballast. >> >> Are you saying maybe build a unistrut arm to affix the stabilizer strut >> to on a tripod mount? >> >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Not in my opinion. Having the mast in the center gives it the same >>> stability from all win directions. If a big wind is coming from "behind" >>> this might be more "tippy". Besides, you only need to use one mast. >>> >>> You can also build almost anything you want out of unistrut. >>> >>> bp >>> >>> On 10/30/2014 11:10 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/RTW-7%20(Assembly).pdf >>> <http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/RTW-7%20%28Assembly%29.pdf> >>> >>> Would this be a better solution than a single vertical so I have >>> something to affix the strut to? >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Our wall mounting option for the 4' antenna is limited to the 25g we >>>> ran up the side, the antenna will actually be 75 feet up the wall from the >>>> first platform I dont think unless we installed a standing platform we >>>> would be able to adjust the antenna. >>>> >>>> I think Im calculating right, its going to take 500lbs ballast if I >>>> used a PRM4, but the lead time on those exceeds our timeline so Im looking >>>> at the sitepro tripods. >>>> >>>> We are kind of limited to the non penetrating solution because with >>>> that we dont have to have a mother may I in place >>>> >>>> A penetrating mount we will, and if a board member says structural >>>> analysis we are shut down on time. >>>> >>>> So we are limited to horizontal surface mounts >>>> >>>> We can get away with small concrete anchors, but we are talking 3/8" >>>> x 3" and I just dont see that that would be safe. Where would I look to >>>> find the penetrating mount anchoring requirements, I see ballast charts all >>>> over, but no anchoring specs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On another note, Ive never dealt with 4' antennas before, apparently >>>> this has a strut. How do I attach a strut if I only have the single >>>> vertical mast? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> At the risk of getting my testicals chopped off, I’d recommend wall >>>>> mounting if you can. SBWM-412 from Sitepro is $150 and the HWK58 >>>>> for mounting is ~$30. Throw in 6’ 0f 4-1/2” pipe for $160 and your >>>>> looking >>>>> at a solid mount for $340 that takes less time to install then it would >>>>> take to lug the concrete up to secure a non-pen with a 4-1/2” pipe on it. >>>>> If you need to use a non-pen, Id use: >>>>> http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TRPD-HD%20(Assembly).pdf >>>>> <http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TRPD-HD%20%28Assembly%29.pdf> >>>>> with >>>>> a 4-1/2” pipe. >>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>>> (410) 637-3707 <%28410%29%20637-3707> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Daniel White via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That has got to be one of the best e-mails I have read in a long >>>>> time :-) >>>>> >>>>> Commscope makes a nice option for a large non-pen mast – but I’d steer >>>>> away from anything with less than a 4” OD mast for a 4ft antenna. Rohn >>>>> makes a similar one, and Baird has a few options. >>>>> >>>>> <image001.jpg> >>>>> *Daniel White* | Managing Director >>>>> *SAF North America LLC* >>>>> >>>>> *Cell:* >>>>> >>>>> (303) 746-3590 >>>>> *Skype:* >>>>> danieldwhite >>>>> *E-mail:* >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:25 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting >>>>> >>>>> I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard >>>>> If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this >>>>> achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with >>>>> dickheads like me that I have. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and >>>>> thats that. >>>>> >>>>> Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final >>>>> project ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, >>>>> Jerrod from Moonblink(Jarrod Washington [ >>>>> [email protected]]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I >>>>> will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in >>>>> olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them >>>>> to you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told >>>>> this guy that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out >>>>> price shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If >>>>> my daughter was old enough, Id marry her to him. >>>>> >>>>> In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One >>>>> side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option >>>>> of >>>>> being mounted on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is >>>>> the wall mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2" deep concrete >>>>> anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently >>>>> we only mount 2' parabolics to it) >>>>> >>>>> We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we >>>>> go to that expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4" antenna >>>>> at the top. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4" parabolic? This >>>>> side we can do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest >>>>> footprint. >>>>> >>>>> The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' >>>>> footprint mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding >>>>> to achieve a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, >>>>> you have no value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec >>>>> and just want to brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what >>>>> it would take to get to a point where with factory spec installation of a >>>>> Lumina I can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from >>>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>> not >>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >> >> >> > > > -- > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >
