I didn't realize the PTP450 didn't have gigabit ethernet in it.  In that
case, there's always a syncpipe parasitic.   Yes, one more (short) cable,
but functionally similar to the uGPS.    I.E. uGPS = cable from poe
injector to radio and cable from radio to uGPS.  Parasitic = cable from PoE
injector to parasitic, and *2* cables from parasitic to the radio.

In the case where there's a syncinjector on site, you could also replace a
syncpipe basic with a syncpipe deluxe and get two timing ports (or with a
syncbox 12 to get 12 timing ports), and still use the same GPS source as
everything else.  There is also the option of building a long version of
the cable described at:
http://manuals.packetflux.com/index.php?page=using-a-syncpipe-parasitic-with-a-syncinjector
and running it from the sync expasnion output on the last syncinjector.

-forrest

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  I don't think it would be a bad idea to have a SyncPipe type device
> powered by UGPS capable radios. Less cabling is a benefit. If
> sync-over-power takes a shit on an AP, it would be easy to toss a UGPS-like
> receiver on it. Etc. I think if it was the cost of a Basic pipe, that would
> be fine.
>
> And the PTP450 being SM hardware based, there's no GigE to worry about. It
> really sounds like Cambium needs to do a separate hardware spin for the
> PTP450 like they did for the 230 and add sync-over-power.
>
> On 11/24/2014 6:58 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:
>
> It's been a while since I looked at the uGPS and how it was powered, but
> yes, that's the general gist.   I can't confirm the exact voltage or how
> the power appeared on the pins since it has been so long since I looked.
>
>  I also can't remember the exact reason why I chose not to go down the
> path of building a syncpipe which could be powered off of a uGPS port,
> other than I have a vague recollection of the power supply circuitry being
> the reason - probably because the 5v is significantly lower than the 8-9V
> that a syncpipe will power on at.
>
>  Due to the PTP450 issue I am looking at some additional sync over timing
> port options.   Gigabit throws a wrench into a lot of the parasitically
> powered options, though.
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Matt via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So when you enable UGPS Power in options what does it do?  Is 5 volt
>> suddenly output on certain pins of the timing port?  What pins?
>>
>> > Nope. But you can use Forrest's SyncConverter to take the sync pulse
>> from a
>> > CMM/CTM/SyncInjector and convert it to timing port at the radio. Or
>> just put
>> > a Parasitic 'pipe on it.
>> >
>> > I asked Forrest about doing a SyncPipe that takes UGPS power. He said
>> no.
>> > Maybe the cost of the serial power circuit, I don't know.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/24/2014 10:16 AM, Matt via Af wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I see the PTP230 and likely PTP450 have UGPS Power option.  Is there a
>> >> way to use this to power up a sync pipe?  Still very very very
>> >> disappointed the PTP450 does not support Sync over Power.
>>
>
>
>

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