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all your submarine long haul DWDM system are belong to us On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:48 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > now going on topic #4 or 5? :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Nate Burke via Af <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:27 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an > hour > > Let me know when you find a video card to run them without a bunch of > adapters cobbeled together. That's the part I'm hung up on now. Anyone > know what the restaurants use to run those menu boards? > > > On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: > > Best Buy is advertising a Samsung 50" LED 1920x1080 TV at $199 each. I > wouldn't mind getting six of those and wall mounting them, connecting them > to a desktop PC showing all sorts of network monitoring stuff. > > Wall mounts for one-axis (tilt) from monoprice are relatively inexpensive, > it's just a thick chunk of steel from China. > > I'm not going to stand in line for them, I don't care about it that much. > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I know a company that would actually go through the night before and >> up the price on everything (clothing store with tags on each item) and then >> have a huge discount sale for BF but the end result was the price was >> actually higher than before the sale. >> >> *From:* Matt Hardy via Af <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:43 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an >> hour >> >> I worked retail in high school & college, and every Black Friday, we'd >> put up some signs saying we were having deals, but everything was the same >> price. >> >> The lines from the cash registers would line up to the back of the store, >> people waiting in line to pay the same price they'd pay the week before or >> after. Never understood it ;) >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I have another set of words for BF regarding those.. "deals". >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Caleb Knauer via Af" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:00:56 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in an >>> hour >>> >>> Man I guess I wasn't sticking my tongue into my cheek far enough ;-) >>> >>> It is kinda interesting the analysis and psychology that goes into the >>> BF "deals". >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > It more that the big stores are "technically" in the red until that >>> > Friday... then from that Friday forward for the rest of the year is >>> when >>> > they make all their profit for the year. >>> > >>> > Travis >>> > >>> > On 11/25/2014 11:15 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote: >>> > >>> > If your books are in the red for every day other than that Friday, your >>> > business is bad and you should feel bad. And you won't see next year. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Black because people doing the books make positive numbers black and >>> >> negative numbers red. Black Friday is when the numbers on the books >>> turn >>> >> black. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Josh Luthman >>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >> 1100 Wayne St >>> >> Suite 1337 >>> >> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> thats supposedly the first day of the year a business will be in the >>> >>> black, at least thats what I was told. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:54 AM, James Howard via Af <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It hasn’t been that many years since there were basically mobs at >>> >>>> Walmart and other stores when they opened for “Black Friday”. Does >>> anyone >>> >>>> know what the actual history of the name is? I always thought it >>> was a >>> >>>> reference to the stores trying to increase sales enough to “get in >>> the >>> >>>> black” financially for the year. Is it really a reference to the >>> almost mob >>> >>>> atmosphere that has occurred over the years? If so, that is >>> racist. Of >>> >>>> course just because something is racist doesn’t mean it isn’t true. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>> via Af >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:40 AM >>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in >>> an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Black Friday... now that is just racist! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From: Mathew Howard via Af >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:38 AM >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in >>> an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I saw a comment somewhere last night... "Early Black Friday sale, >>> >>>> everything 100% off in Ferguson". >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ________________________________ >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Chuck McCown via Af >>> >>>> [[email protected]] >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:31 AM >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in >>> an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A good looting is a perfect warm-up exercise for the holiday season. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> When we ran the Radio Shack, this was the time of the year for >>> break ins >>> >>>> and burglaries. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> One time they threw a large rock through the window and were in and >>> out >>> >>>> in 2 minutes. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The next incident happened before we could even get the window >>> fixed. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Security cameras satisfied our curiosity as to what happened, but >>> they >>> >>>> never helped the cops catch anyone. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From: That One Guy via Af >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:27 AM >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in >>> an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> yes, no questions asked. There were nikes and flat screens in those >>> >>>> stores that needed liberated from the oppressors. The news could >>> have >>> >>>> ignored it all together and they would have rioted and looted, >>> thats who >>> >>>> they are, its what they do, kind of like how when we see jobs, we >>> take them >>> >>>> and do them. We really arent any different than them >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Nate Burke via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Or that the 24 hour news cycle needs something to talk about. One >>> >>>> comment I heard on the radio was that given the amount of coverage >>> that [the >>> >>>> media] had in Ferguson, if something didn't happen they would be >>> really >>> >>>> disappointed. Expectations lead to results. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> If the Media had been covering it as 'An announcement is expected >>> >>>> tonight, We expect everything to be calm' Would carnage have >>> happened? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 11/25/2014 9:43 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I think it is the case that it's just more visible, it probably has >>> >>>> always been happening just as much... and cases like in Ferguson >>> normally >>> >>>> would never be heard of outside the local area, if somebody hadn't >>> decided >>> >>>> that it was a good opportunity for rioting. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ________________________________ >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af >>> >>>> [[email protected]] >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:45 AM >>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in >>> an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >Cops sure seem to me to be a bit more trigger happy than in times >>> past. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Is that a gut feeling or is there math to prove that? It's >>> certainly >>> >>>> become more visible in recent years, but from what I've read in the >>> last >>> >>>> year there hasn't been a noticeable increase in police shootings in >>> the last >>> >>>> several years (as of the last year report I read). >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>> >>>> Suite 1337 >>> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Yep, here in Utah the motto is “kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out”. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It is OK though because we are a pretty religious bunch... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But seriously - >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Cops sure seem to me to be a bit more trigger happy than in times >>> past. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> We have one that seems to me to be much worse that Ferguson here in >>> >>>> Saratoga Springs. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Kid had a replica sword. Walking around near a gas station, >>> morning, >>> >>>> not any people around. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Someone called it in, kid was looking/acting a bit goofy. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Cops chased him around and shot him in the back 6 or 7 times. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> No looting and riots. Just peaceful sad gatherings. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From: That One Guy via Af >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:27 PM >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here in >>> an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> none will be prosecuted, they all have the ACLU hotline written on >>> their >>> >>>> arm, there are hundreds of lawyers on site just for this, >>> everything is a >>> >>>> civil rights issue, even stealing TVs. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Ive been listening to >>> http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1573/web >>> >>>> really good dispatchers, these guys have to be under stress, they >>> keep >>> >>>> having missing cops, even though you know theyll turn up its got to >>> put a >>> >>>> pit in your stomach every time. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Apparently in utah now, getting killed by cops is the number one >>> murder >>> >>>> according to some headlines, is this true chuck, are your cops >>> randomly >>> >>>> killing poeple now? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Jay Weekley via Af <[email protected]> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> There are a lot of cameras in the area. Hopefully some will be >>> >>>> prosecuted. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Mathew Howard via Af wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It makes sense when you think about it that way... they know >>> there's a >>> >>>> good chance they'll get away with it, with all the other stuff >>> going on >>> >>>> keeping the police busy. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>> *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of CBB - Jay Fuller >>> via Af >>> >>>> [[email protected]] >>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 11:06 PM >>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening here >>> in an >>> >>>> hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> crimes of opportunity. hey, excuse to break into the liquor store. >>> >>>> free beer! >>> >>>> no relation to anything else. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 10:53 PM >>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting listening >>> here >>> >>>> in an hour >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Destroy your own city, brilliant! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 11/24/2014 10:23 PM, Tyler Treat via Af wrote: >>> >>>> > Toggling between Fox and CNN. People just torching random >>> >>>> shit and thieving everything. Sad. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > ___________________________ >>> >>>> > Mangled by my iPhone. >>> >>>> > ___________________________ >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Tyler Treat >>> >>>> > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > [email protected] <mailto: >>> [email protected]> >>> >>>> > ___________________________ >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Jay Weekley via Af < >>> [email protected] >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> Anything interesting on the scanner? >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> Tyler Treat via Af wrote: >>> >>>> >>> I'm completely speechless. >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> ___________________________ >>> >>>> >>> Mangled by my iPhone. >>> >>>> >>> ___________________________ >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> Tyler Treat >>> >>>> >>> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>> ___________________________ >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:44 PM, That One Guy via Af >>> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> woot >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Mathew Howard via Af >>> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> 8pm central is what I heard on the radio on the way >>> home. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I didn't think about listening to the police scanner... >>> >>>> this >>> >>>> >>>> should be interesting. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [[email protected] >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] >>> >>>> >>>> on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [[email protected] >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] >>> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 7:23 PM >>> >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting >>> >>>> listening here >>> >>>> >>>> in an hour >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I think it's due at 8 PM Central. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>> >>>> >>>> Mike Hammett >>> >>>> >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< >>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< >>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL >>> >>>> >>> >>>> < >>> https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL%3E%3Chttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb%3E%3Chttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions%3E%3Chttps://twitter.com/ICSIL >>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>> >>>> *From: *"Rory Conaway via Af" <[email protected] >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >>>> >>>> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:* <*>[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> *Sent: *Monday, November 24, 2014 7:22:34 PM >>> >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ot: may be some interesting >>> >>>> listening here >>> >>>> >>>> in an hour >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> That�s awesome. 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