We do not use the DNS proxy. Never have; we've seen the proxy built into many SOHO routers as being a problem too often, and did not want to go there with any/all of our SMs. Guess it's a case of once burned, twice shy.

We're also not seeing the drop in modulation. We are getting reliable 8X/6X operation out to about 8 miles.


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bp
<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>

On 11/28/2014 8:14 AM, Timothy D. McNabb via Af wrote:

Fair enough. We don’t manually input the DNS into the radios to give us the flexibility of control over the SM’s DNS without having to mass edit in the future. Albeit we haven’t changed DNS server IP in several years, but in the off chance something needs to be put up temporarily, we’d like to be prepared.

I did notice changing a couple of SM’s to DNS Proxy enabled worked out well for the customers affected. It didn’t seem to be everyone but we had several. Disabled appears to be the default method when upgrading the firmware but I hadn’t been through enough SM’s prior to the rollback (where in I checked this particular setting) to confirm.

It was still pretty unsettling to see the decrease in modulation. Considering that the total throughput available on the AP is based on the modulation rate of the SM’s (we aspire to at least maintain a minimum of 8x/4x per SM), it’s disappointing to see the behavior of the radios as they were after the upgrade. We had a few SM’s that went from 8x/4x to 8x/2x, even a couple of 8x/6x that dropped lower.

-Tim

PS – OT, I hope everyone had a happy turkey-day and has hopefully avoided a good chunk of the BF shenanigans

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:35 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 13.2 issues

We do similar and are not seeing any issues on 13.2.

When our SMs are in NAT mode, they get the DNS servers from their DHCP server, and propagate the DNS server addresses to their clients. I have not seen one instance of this not working; and we have quite a few on 13.2 now.

Likewise, we also upgraded the SMs first, then the APs. Works as advertised.


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On 11/26/2014 4:57 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

    It’s a choice you make, do you want the SM to hand its own address
    out via DHCP and act as the DNS server, or do you want the SM to
    hand out your DNS server IP addresses via DHCP?  We do the latter,
    and manually enter those DNS server addresses into the SM.  Most
    of our residential customers have their own WiFi router behind the
    SM, this way it gets handed our DNS server addresses and probably
    acts as a DNS proxy itself.

    But that is just our preferred way of setting it up.  I don’t
    believe any of this has changed since many FW versions ago on PMP100.

    The reason I asked was, if you are disabling DNS proxy on the SM,
    then you are using the same configuration we are and I am
    surprised that 13.2 broke it for you.  If you are enabling DNS
    proxy, I don’t think we do that anywhere, so I would be unaware if
    13.2 broke it.

    *From:*Timothy D. McNabb via Af <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Sent:*Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:27 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 13.2 issues

    It’s set to the default upon flashing, which appears to be disabled.

    TBH if it is something that should be enabled, then it should have
    been by default with the release IMHO.

    -Tim

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
    via Af
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:18 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 13.2 issues

    You have DNS Server Proxy enabled or disabled on the SM?

    *From:*Timothy D. McNabb via Af <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Sent:*Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:09 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*[AFMUG] Cambium 450 13.2 issues

    We’ve seen a few issues with the new 13.2 firmware for the 5.4/5.7
    450 equipment. Here is the bucket list –

    ·If an AP is on 13.2, but an SM is on 13.1.3, there is the
    possibility that the SM cannot update because it is stuck in 8x/1x
    mode and throughput is significantly decreased. Manually going to
    the customer site and updating can bring the radio back up

    ·In some cases, SM’s after the update come back online with a
    better signal but a decreased throughput and modulation rate than
    what was previously viewed on 13.1.3

    ·Behind a NAT’d SM, it does not appear that DNS is being properly
    passed by the SM to a customer’s router. Manually setting the
    customers router to our DNS servers (instead of relying on the
    NAT’d IP address) appears to resolve the issue. Manually setting
    the DNS IP address to the NAT’d SM’s IP does not resolve the issue.

    We have since rolled back from 13.2 to 13.1.3 which was stable
    with our particular network configuration. I have no intention of
    rolling forward to 13.2 again for Cambium testing purposes (sorry
    guys) however I would be able to answer any specific details to
    our configuration if it is helpful.

    Timothy McNabb

    Network Administrator

    Velociter Wireless, Inc

    (209)838-1221 x107


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