Spamdyke sits on the interface of the host machine and watches those tcp connections for mail. There are several list you can turn on off on the fly without disrupting service. I use a combo of RBL and RHbls with ip black and grey listing alongside whitelists. I started using it and never looked back. I believe they now have it ported for microsoft apps as well. At least they talked about it a while back.

On 12/04/2014 08:15 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
*nods* I know that port knocking, VPNs, etc. are more secure for entry (most things I have aren't on public IPs, so VPns are the way in. But I'm looking to block them from everything. You try something you're not supposed to, get off my lawn.

I haven't heard of SPAMdyke before. I'll check it out. The more integrated I can have SPAM systems with my existing Zimbra installation, the better. I'm not a fan of additional front-ends and outside services.

A machine that's trying to get my web server for a Linksys ShellShock vulnerability likely is churning out SPAM or going to try to participate in DNS amplification or whatever. Stop everything.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"David via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Thursday, December 4, 2014 8:04:30 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking

Mike,
 Do you use spamdyke on your mail servers?
We have used it for years in combo with our spamd on qmail toaster plus machines
Very affective and easy to manage list
I do something similar with honey pot but only for analysis. I take the ips that are in the Denied log of our DNS servers and add them to a 30day timed list on our edges to blackhole. This alone has stopped most of the BS spam and malware issues we see. We started this about a year ago and the network has been very clean and quiet in fact I hardly ever see any DNS query related problems.

The brute force attacks on ports 20-25 are shut down with a simple rule that add the offending IP to a dropall list for 24hrs.

In order to access the internals of our net via those ports from outside you have to be on our secure VPN and use port knock sequence.

On 12/02/2014 10:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

    I haven't decided to integrate my idea with SPAM prevention, but
    I've been thinking about it.  ;-)  I'll get the other stuff
    working first.



    -----
    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com

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    *From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]>
    *To: *[email protected]
    *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:24:59 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking

    I've had a similar discussion with customers who manually block
    the email
    address of everyone who sends them spam.  So they have a blacklist of
    thousands of random fictitious email addresses that sound like the
    real
    names of Batman villains.  They feel good blocking the spammers,
    so I've
    given up trying to talk them out of it.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mike Hammett via Af
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:36 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking

    I can't force the abuse contact to do anything.

    If you don't try something, you're just as complicit.

    Fail2Ban with custom rules and actions is what I'm working on.

    Just because it is a dynamic pool doesn't mean people don't
    perpetually have
    the same IP.



    -----
    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com




    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:27:58 -0600 (CST)
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking

    Just when you put all that effort into it, and talk about throwing
    violators
    into a BGP blackhole, and forcing abuse contacts to take action,
    it seemed
    inconsistent with the reality. Plus the fact that a lot of those
    will be
    dynamic pool addresses. If you’re talking about something like
    Fail2ban and
    blocking SSH for 60 minutes, that makes sense. SSH and RDP dictionary
    attacks are a big problem, as are DNS amplification attacks. But
    rarely does
    the source IP actually identify who is behind the attack, just one of
    millions of bots. It seems a futile exercise to block them one IP
    address at
    a time.


    From: Mike Hammett via Af
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:10 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking

    Yes and I stated so in that e-mail.




    -----
    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com



    
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    From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:46:23 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking


    You do understand most of those IPs will be infected computers
    with a bot
    doing the scanning, not a bad guy sitting at his own computer, right?

    As far as customers, we tell them they need to at a minimum have
    Microsoft
    Security Essentials or the free version of a commercial AV. If
    they ask for
    a recommendation of a commercial AV product, we tell them we use
    ESET.
    Nothing will protect someone who engages in risky online activity
    or clicks
    before thinking. Those people need a good local computer shop (not
    Geek
    Squad) to rescue their computer and data and to install security
    software.
    And amazingly, I still need to tell people that securing their
    WiFi is not
    optional, and 1234 is not an acceptable email password.


    From: Mike Hammett via Af
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 8:39 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking

    No bursting anywhere for anything.

    Currently I firewall all IPs that touch my honey pot IPs or
    attempt SSH at
    my edge. No need to have any of them on my network. I'm
    implementing a
    method to bring all servers, routers, switches, etc. back to a
    central
    syslog where I run my analysis there. That will then capture the more
    distributed scansattacks. Other than a whitelist, violators will
    be thrown
    into a BGP blackhole. It'll also fire off an e-mail to the RIR
    registered
    abuse contact. If you're doing any sort of trickery or trickeration
    (intentional via script kiddieworse or unintentional via malware),
    I don't
    want simple scans escalating into something more complex and
    possibly more
    damaging. You do the simple stuff, into the blackhole you go. I do
    understand that the abuse contact on the other side isn't likely
    to do much,
    but for the networks that will take action, I'd like to give them the
    information to do so. Plus if enough people do it, the abuse
    contacts are
    going to have to do something.




    -----
    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com



    
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    From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af"
    <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Cc: [email protected]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:28:16 AM
    Subject: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking


    Two questions for the group this am.



    1. Are you setting burst limits for Netflix or other streaming video
    services on your network routers? If so, what rate are you
    limiting it at?

    2. With 97% of the US networks now Hackable, what are you doing on
    your side
    and advising customers to do? Meaning… what front line defenses
    are you
    taking and what software and/or hardware protection are you
    recommending to
    your customers?

    (It would appear that the majority of hacks these days are
    actually Malware
    infections inside the network - Employee related errors)



    Put your 2 cents in.



    Tyson Burris, President
    Internet Communications Inc.
    739 Commerce Dr.
    Franklin, IN 46131

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