I think like Barney Fife, you should only get one bullet, and you have to keep 
it in your pocket.

From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 9:22 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available

Well agreed on that latter part.




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From: "Cameron Crum via Af" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 9:17:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available


In TX they have to have a specific sign with specific wording otherwise it is 
invalid, although a business is treated much like a home. If they post a no 
weapons sign, it is probably in your best interest to either not carry inside 
or not patronize the business.  



On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

  Do you have to obey that sign? In Illinois you do, but in other states, they 
serve no legal purpose.




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  From: "James Howard via Af" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:54:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available


  I agree and don’t personally think open carry is a very good idea typically.  
I just had a conversation with the night manager at the local grocery store 
when I stopped in for something (my wife tends to stop there more than I do) 
and they had very prominent “no weapons allowed in store” on the doors.  I told 
him they’re basically announcing to criminals that there won’t be anyone in 
their store with a weapon to defend against a robbery, plus they make 
themselves liable for my safety by not allowing me to protect myself.  Anyway, 
his response was that if they’re robbed they’re supposed to hit the panic 
button and give the robbers anything they want.  I asked him what they do if 
the robber decides to start shooting people.  He says “wait for the police”.  
Nice…..



  I agree with Chuck about there being no bright lines.  The fact that this 
police chief said that this was their policy if they see anyone carrying a gun, 
not doing anything illegal is what I have a problem with.  



  Josh you probably wouldn’t like him but you’d probably like Sheriff David 
Clarke.  He actually wrote a letter to congress apologizing for what this guy 
said when he testified before a congressional subcommittee about gun control.  
He pointed out that the police chief is appointed and doesn’t answer to or 
speak for the people.



  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
  Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 1:27 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available



  If you're going to carry (and I do), carry concealed as possible. Here in 
Alaska there is concealed carry without a license (which is *awesome* btw). 
You'd be amazed at how much nicer it makes people.

  That said, walking around with a visable piece is just asking for trouble. It 
gives you quick access to the weapon, but removes the element of surprise. It 
also can make you a target if somebody wants your weapon to commit a crime.



josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/05/2014 10:23 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

    It is all how you “carry” a weapon.  Holstered weapons should not be a 
reason for a takedown.  Pulling it out and pointing it around is a different 
thing.



    Deer rifle slung across your back during hunting season is one thing.  Deer 
rifle being use as a spotting scope around people  is a different thing...



    And so on.  

    50 shades of gray.  

    No bright lines in my opinion.  



    From: Josh Reynolds via Af 

    Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:13 PM

    To: [email protected] 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available



    There is a very prominent "come and take them" sticker on the back of my 
jeep, right next to a sergeant rank sticker.

    I don't think I'd like that guy.



josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/05/2014 08:51 AM, James Howard via Af wrote:

      So now I was interested in who he is.   I disagree about him being cool.  
Here’s a quote from him.  Keep in mind that in Wisconsin we’ve had an “open 
carry” law for years.  It’s legal to carry a firearm (assuming you are of legal 
age and aren’t a felon).  There are lots of other quotes from him as well but 
this shows his regard for the law IMO.



      My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the 
streets of Milwaukee, we’ll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then 
decide whether you have a right to carry it. . . . It’s irresponsible to send a 
message to them that if they just carry it openly no one can bother them.







      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af
      Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:39 AM
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      We never hear anything about him here in Wisconsin.  I actually had to 
look up who he is.  I see that he had a 100% no confidence vote from the police 
union but was backed by Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett recently (being backed by 
Tom Barrett isn’t necessarily a good thing IMO).  Oh…. He’s the one that was on 
his cell phone during a meeting.  I didn’t realize that was in Milwaukee.



      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
      Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:31 AM
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      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available



      Hes cool too, but Im talking about Edward Flynn



      On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:19 AM, James Howard via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

      I’m guessing you’re thinking of the Milwaukee County Sheriff, David 
Clarke.  



      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
      Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:13 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available



      Milwaukee has a cool police chief



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