It's a shame those services are 1000% easier to use than products you pay
for.  Oh well...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ty Featherling via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> Me neither. My Plex server doesn't have any high quality material to
> stream to my Rokus and Chromecasts. It's a wasteland out there.
>
> -Ty
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> All I know is whatever these companies are doing is definitely working.
>> I can't find a single movie to pirate online.  Definitely can't find mp4
>> videos of Bluray rips that are a roughly 2 GBs and work with my
>> Chromecast/Xbox/TV.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the
>>>> encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the
>>>> playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Wright
>>>>
>>>> Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke via
>>>> Af
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>>>> streaming 4K now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy
>>>> protection was a little lacking.  Ultimately it's still an analog medium
>>>> (you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level.
>>>> Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, "Pixel 1342x975
>>>> displaying color E0FFFF at timestamp 58:44:13.221"  Maybe I'm naive, but it
>>>> doesn't seem like it should be that hard.....
>>>>
>>>> On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM,
>>>> they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would
>>>> figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet
>>>> for free.
>>>>
>>>> It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>> On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick
>>>> in a 32GB memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming
>>>> services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing
>>>> deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they
>>>> would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage
>>>> space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full
>>>> retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less
>>>> than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a
>>>> TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>> On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That’s pretty cool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a
>>>> while, then burst back to 90Mbps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on
>>>> the built in TV’s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>>>> streaming 4K now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lovely
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming
>>>> 4K now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Ghering
>>>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>>>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
>>>>
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