I was going to say.....napster wasn't easy to use? hahaha....but then again, i guess we all "knew" it wasn't "legal" itunes made it legal...
----- Original Message ----- From: Ty Featherling via Af To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4Know. That is the kicker for sure. The biggest drop-off in music piracy wasn't lawsuits or raids, it was iTunes and similar services making it easy to find and buy music online. The same hasn't happened for movies/tv yet. Netflix is great but the selection isn't ubiquitous. It has still made streaming video easy and affordable. A la carte is the big change to come I think. HBO Go for instance no longer going to require a cable subscription. You can pay for it separately and enjoy your HBO content on the internet. No cable company necessary. Of course as ISPs we have a different battle on our hands. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote: It's a shame those services are 1000% easier to use than products you pay for. Oh well... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ty Featherling via Af <[email protected]> wrote: Me neither. My Plex server doesn't have any high quality material to stream to my Rokus and Chromecasts. It's a wasteland out there. -Ty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote: All I know is whatever these companies are doing is definitely working. I can't find a single movie to pirate online. Definitely can't find mp4 videos of Bluray rips that are a roughly 2 GBs and work with my Chromecast/Xbox/TV. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af <[email protected]> wrote: Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly.. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af <[email protected]> wrote: It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nate Burke via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now. I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy protection was a little lacking. Ultimately it's still an analog medium (you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level. Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, "Pixel 1342x975 displaying color E0FFFF at timestamp 58:44:13.221" Maybe I'm naive, but it doesn't seem like it should be that hard..... On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM, they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]> wrote: Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free. It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK. Travis On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick in a 32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer. --bp<part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc. Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video. Travis On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: That’s pretty cool. You can do 4k direct from Youtube. Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps. But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a while, then burst back to 90Mbps. I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the built in TV’s. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now. Lovely From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now. http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
