AF2015 @ Chuck McCown's house

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

>   I would make popcorn there but right across from the bathroom is a
> kitchen with popcorn maker and hot dog machine.
>
> I need to put a TV in the kitchen too.
>
> I can seat 24 easily.  I have 9 recliner couches on stadium seating.
> Nice room for the Superbowl.  I do need a 4 K projector I think...
>
> The rest of the basement isn’t finished, and actually I still have trim
> and painting and a tiny bit of drywall to do for the TV room.  But it is
> 99% done.  Probably will not finish it until I am ready to sell the
> house....  Isn’t that the way you normally do things?
>
>  *From:* Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:48 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth.
> Amazonstreaming4Know.
>
>  I think we've established that you do make popcorn in the bathroom... or
> at least Ken does.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [
> [email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:33 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth.
> Amazonstreaming4Know.
>
>  But you don't make popcorn in the bathroom...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 11, 2014 9:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   Chuck probably has one of those 96 inch 8K televisions.  I saw a
>> report on the LG 8K TV at some show saying it was still old technology
>> because it was LCD not OLED.
>>
>> The real story will probably be that if 4K TVs are now affordable, 1080p
>> TVs are probably VERY affordable.  Hence the people putting them in every
>> room of the house, streaming Netflix.  Even the bathroom.  So you can watch
>> while making popcorn.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:23 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth.
>> Amazonstreaming4Know.
>>
>>   You boys are probably still slapping the side of the TV to get the
>> picture to straighten up, right?
>>
>>  *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth.
>> Amazonstreaming4Know.
>>
>>
>> i assume you no one here in alabama (except us techies) knows what 4ktv
>> is.  i honestly don't even...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Ryan Ghering via Af <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:36 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>> streaming4Know.
>>
>> It's especially worrisome with Newegg and Tiger selling cheap off brand
>> 4K's under 500 bucks. And Roku is starting a big sale this week.
>> I've already had calls this morning if customers current bandwidth will
>> stream 4k. NOPE sorry.. Then I tell them what package we do offer that will
>> support it and they freek out. Like I'm gona give bandwidth away for free.
>> GEEZ
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:30 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is going to make for an ugly christmas season.
>>> If we had customer service who was firm it wouldnt be an issue "we dont
>>> offer that speed currently"
>>> but instead, the customers on 900 will be the ones who get the tv, and
>>> the subscription and call in, and CS will keep saying, well isnt there
>>> anything we can do for this guy in the middle of the forrest with the 300
>>> foot cable run? and Ill have to go home and punch one of my children,
>>> probably the boy, Im kind of afraid of the girl.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   A quick Google search comes up with Audials and Playlater.  It does
>>>> not appear to be rocket science.
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Jason McKemie via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:18 PM
>>>>  *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>>>> streaming 4Know.
>>>>
>>>>   I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from
>>>> RAM, they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would
>>>>> figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet
>>>>> for free.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick
>>>>> in a 32GB memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming
>>>>> services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing
>>>>> deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), 
>>>>> they
>>>>> would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage
>>>>> space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full
>>>>> retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for 
>>>>> less
>>>>> than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a
>>>>> TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  That’s pretty cool.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a
>>>>> while, then burst back to 90Mbps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on
>>>>> the built in TV’s.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>>>>> streaming 4K now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lovely
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>>>>> streaming 4K now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Ghering
>>>>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>>>>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Ghering
>> Network Operations - Plains.Net
>> Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
>>
>>

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