heh, tell them for $100 you'll activate them on your network once they build 
out to you....

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Glen Waldrop via Af 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..


  Truth.

  I can't tell you how many people I've dealt with this year that went on 
Google and found equipment that will do 25+ miles and then called fussing at me 
because I can't get service to them.

  It is a double edged sword dealing with parts that the general public can 
easily buy.



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Eric Kuhnke via Af 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:14 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..


    I know Ben as an "official" ubnt person is too diplomatic to say this, but 
the problem with alignment, separation and other site engineering problems is 
because anyone with a credit card can buy a ubiquiti link...  The super user 
friendly documentation and GUI on the http interface make it easy for people 
who barely know any networking tech or RF to attempting setting up a PTP link. 

    If you sold a connectorized AF5 and treated it like a part 101 product, for 
sales only to real companies through a different channel, it would be easier to 
guarantee success.



    On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Ben Moore via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

      We have looked at this, but alignment would be a real issue (and ensuring 
proper separation, etc...)...We are still kicking around some different 
options.  Though we are getting a lot of good feedback already on long links 
with AF5.


      On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

        I would like a pro grade AF5 connectorized, for use with a pair of the 
3' Jirous high performance antennas. Each link would need 4 dishes but you'd be 
able to go a lot further than the current af5 antenna size. 

        On Dec 10, 2014 10:05 PM, "Mathew Howard via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:

          PtMP based on the airfiber in 3.65ghz would seem like a good fit, 
with the new rules that are (hopefully) coming...

          licensed also seems like an obvious place to go with airfiber.



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          From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af 
[[email protected]]
          Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:42 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..


          I'd be incredibly surprised if they didn't do a ptmp.

          Not sure a revamped 24GHz is in consideration when there's so many 
other bands they could release equipment for.

          Maybe licensed? Hrmmmm...

          One can hope, right?

josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 12/10/2014 08:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af 
wrote:

            I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In 
the 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit 
backhaul...  I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well.



            On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products 
released in the next 12-18 months.

              If not sooner.

              Now... what would those be?

              Hrmmmmmmmmm.....


josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af 
wrote:

                I don’t know what you are talking about.



                Rory



                From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh 
Reynolds via Af
                Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..



                I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) 
is silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing.

                :P



josh reynolds :: chief information officerspitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 
12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:

                  I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all 
the 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules.  The 450 is able to 
provide a better performance within the new environment so there will still be 
a differentiator.  The only question if it’s worth the difference.



                  Rory



                  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan 
Englhardt via Af
                  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM
                  To: Josh Luthman via Af
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..



                  .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or 
not. Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers 
and applications where 450 does not meet the price point. 



                  Von: Josh Luthman via Af
                  Gesendet: ‎Donnerstag‎, ‎11‎. ‎Dezember‎ ‎2014 ‎04‎:‎00
                  An: Josh Luthman via Af



                  An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether 
Cambium would be
                  fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a 
company do when
                  it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one 
starts to outshine
                  the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? 
(mbps - even .AC
                  ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc).

                  On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af 
<[email protected]>
                  wrote:

                  >  The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac.
                  >
                  >
                  > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
                  > *Gesendet:* ‎Donnerstag‎, ‎11‎. ‎Dezember‎ ‎2014 ‎01‎:‎39
                  > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
                  >
                  > I hope Cambium is listing on this point.
                  >
                  > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 
10 meg price
                  > point.
                  >
                  > They are about to have more competition from lot of other 
vendors too.
                  >
                  > Tushar
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter 
Kranz via Af
                  > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM
                  > To: [email protected]
                  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
                  >
                  > > Yes no maybe.
                  >
                  > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light 
the competitive
                  > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of 
speed licenses.
                  >
                  >












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