My car (automatic) will downshift to slow me down.  I can also downshift to
do this and do it pretty often on exit ramps.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Paddles are pretty awful compared to a stick.  Sure it’s fast - but you
> have no control at all over shift quality.   Wind out manumatics and they
> crack off very hard shifts.   They do the same for downshifts.  They won’t
> let you do anything they don’t like - give them too much torque and they
> downshift regardless of what you tell them.  Same with upshifts.  I just
> give up and put them in automatic mode.
>
> I much prefer a manual - it does exactly what I want 95% of the time, and
> the other 5% is my screwup.  I can live with that 5%.
>
> Want to pass someone without a lot of drama?   Make a very downshift (if
> you even need to) and floor it - no drama at all.   It doesn’t kick into
> 2nd, make a lot of noise, and jerk everyone in the car.   Want a smooth
> deceleration?  Just let the engine slow you down - automatics just
> freewheel anymore with no engine braking.   Want a lot of drama? - just
> downshift and mash it.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Not at all.  The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just weird
> and awful.  When you're using paddles it's more F1 like.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a
>> manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat similar
>> experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick shift, but it does
>> give you somewhat more of an involved feel than automatic.
>>
>> The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [
>> [email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
>>
>>   It's not the same thing AT ALL.  It's a third gear box option.  My car
>> has automatic and paddle shift.  It is not the same as driving the 6MT of
>> the identical car at all.  Remember there is no clutch and it is generally
>> sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in.
>>
>>
>>  Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  For manual lovers that have used "flappy-paddle gear boxes", how do
>>> they compare in the involvement with the driving experience?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>  *From: *"Jason McKemie via Af" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
>>>
>>> All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have
>>> been manual, I miss that quite a bit.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is
>>>> restricted to people that love the driving thing.  Stick shift makes you
>>>> more "involved".
>>>>
>>>> And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming
>>>> more effective every day.  I'm surprised by the number of people that don't
>>>> know how to drive a stick any more.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> bp
>>>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car
>>>>> because they can't figure out how to operate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Seth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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