I remember when booking hotel rooms in Wash. DC being told to always ask for the government rate, without actually saying you were a government employee.
I wonder if you could just ask vendors for the JAB price. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS Crap, how well equipped is that? That's beyond even what you can get a reasonably decked out Eltek Minipack shelf for these days, not seeing how they could be worth that much. Must be mainly targeting those using OPM. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: Tessco has them in the $2k range Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, saw them on Newmar. Usually "call for a quote" is a bad sign. I hear that these are what Jab has standardized on. They seem pretty robust. I imagine they come with free sticker shock. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: Looks interesting… its from Newmar.. http://www.newmartelecom.com/Sentinel_Rectifier_System/Sentinel_Rectifier_System.html Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Jeremy <[email protected]> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:32 PM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS Anyone ever tried the Sentinel systems? http://gfspower.com.au/products/dc-power-systems/sentinel-power-system/ On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: We got these through Allied Electronics.ï¿1Ž2 We got the 5 amp model for a couple of small PoPs; we're not so concerned about battery recharge time, as the PoPs only need about 1.5 amps (~~ 35 watts) to operate. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/11/2015 10:55 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Were do you buy the Altech? Direct? What model you bought? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 @aeronetpr From: Bill Prince <[email protected]> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 7:04 PM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS We just got a couple of the 24V versions and it was only $300 each.ï¿1Ž2 About the same as the Traco for the two separate units.ï¿1Ž2 I sure appreciate the differences, but I was looking for extra-small form factor on a DIN rail.ï¿1Ž2 Because this site is on AC power 99.99% of the time, it's not a big deal (to me) if it takes 24 or even 48 hours to get a full charge.ï¿1Ž2 IIRC, these units also have LVD. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/6/2015 10:26 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: Those are really expensive. A Traco TSP+BCM is several hundred less at almost every wattage, last time I looked anyway. I like the split power supply and battery module. A lot cheaper to replace a failed component than an entire $700-1k all-in-one. But that's just me. The Traco gets you temperature compensated charging and LVD. You get contacts for DC input OK, batt OK/fail, etc. Hook that up to a SiteMonitor switch closure module and you have pretty good remote visibility. Put shunts wherever you want to monitor, battery charge/discharge current, output rail current, etc. On 1/6/2015 10:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Try these.ï¿1Ž2 We are about to install a couple of them.ï¿1Ž2 Some models have ethernet ports for a GUI (no SNMP :-( ).ï¿1Ž2 But they do have contacts to send alerts through a SiteMonitor (for example). http://www.altechcorp.com/power/CBI-UPS.html On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Christopher Tyler <[email protected]> wrote: I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and it's obvious that no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works. We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19" rack) and neither one can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to provide 24vDC to a load and when the AC power goes out, send an alert and let us monitor the system status via SNMP. Alpha: PROS: DIN rail mounted CONS: Web interface is IE only, SNMP requests are completely broken, have not tested SNMP traps, cost is about $700. ICT: PROS: It works well as a dumb power supply/charger with UPS functionality, web interface works in all browsers. CONS: SNMP is limited to about 6 values, all remote communication is lost when AC is removed, no battery monitoring at all other than the voltage for use with LV cutoff which is one of the values that is not available via SNMP. Also costs about $700 I have to give it to Alpha at this point, at least their unit remains "intelligent" when AC power is removed. If they would fix their web interface and SNMP it would be perfect. So... Does anyone have a solution that works that isn't completely cobbled together? I need to know when we lose/regain AC power, that the battery is draining, what the battery voltage is so that I know when it's about to cut off, it needs a LV cut off to protect the batteries, and all this information needs to be available via SNMP and web. Am I asking for too much or does something of this nature exist outside of TrippLite and APC? -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 -- -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
