If you have 2 xpic channels or 4 individual channels, you can run 4+0 with
2 units (4 radios cores) into 1 antenna…. Sweet!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com  
@aeronetpr






On 1/14/15, 8:09 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:

>This all sounds like nomenclature and smoke and mirrors.
>
>If there are two antennas; one H and one V, then it would be 2x2 MIMO,
>unless you are running more than one radio per polarity. Then it's still
>not 4x4 MIMO, but more like 2x2 PLUS 2x2?
>
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/14/2015 3:55 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Yes…and you chain them by a special fiber port
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/14/15, 7:52 PM, "Peter Kranz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> By another set of radios.. you mean another double-core IP20c feeding
>>> another antenna with spacial diversity?
>>>
>>> Peter Kranz
>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:48 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused
>>>
>>> Yeap… and you can double that using another set of radios with the same
>>> channel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/14/15, 7:34 PM, "Peter Kranz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So if you use both cores.. and one core feeds H and the other feeds V
>>>> on the same antenna.. what is the maximum throughput in a 80Mhz
>>>> channel? Is that the ~1.2Gbps number?
>>>>
>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:32 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused
>>>>
>>>> A single ip20 has dual core RF, so it can do h/v same channel or
>>>> different and h/h or v/v
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> President
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/15, 7:18 PM, "Peter Kranz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So a single IP20C unit does not do a traditional 2x2 MIMO with a
>>>>> single antenna?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was under the impression the IP20C would do H and V chains with the
>>>>> single head.. ~600 per polarity in 80Mhz.. giving ~1.2 Gbps for IP20C
>>>>> radio..
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:29 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP20c 4x4 MIMO? Confused
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to add to the fact that you can get more 2x the bandwitdh by
>>>>> adding a second ODU and antenna in a setup similar to spatial
>>>>> diversity
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the same channel and polarityŠ
>>>>>
>>>>> So 4x4 mimo in Ceragon terms is:
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 dual core ODUS a (4 radio paths)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 Antennas
>>>>>
>>>>> Using 2 channels ( can be xpic same channel or 2 HH, 2VV )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> President
>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/14/15, 6:18 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Each ODU has two separate cores, so one "ODU" gives you 2x
>>>>>>throughput
>>>>>> of your standard single core ODU we're used to dealing with.  They
>>>>>>do
>>>>>> a bunch of crazy things with combiners, MIMO sync, etc and some
>>>>>> creative naming mechanisms.  But in the end your standard IP20C with
>>>>>> both cores on an 80Mhz channel will do 1.2Gbps or so.  The two cores
>>>>>> are layer 1 bonded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> How does ³LoS 4X4 MIMO quadrupling capacity using only 2 radio
>>>>>>> units² work..? What is the real throughput of this radio?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Kranz
>>>>>>> Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>>>>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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