Batteries suck too much for that to happen IMO.
Josh Luthman
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On Jan 15, 2015 10:48 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hydrogen seems like a better option to me, or at least a hydrogen
hybrid. Normally charge at home, work, whatever, but have a
hydrogen tank for range and quick fill up.
That or a major increase in the electrical systems to have
charging stations all over and you plug in everywhere you go.
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*From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:33:33 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Solar powered car.
Solar powered house.
Eventually solar powered garden too.
Oil? What is oil?
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM
*To:* af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term
repercussions,one of the best things I think that could happen
is that the price of oil to go to like $250/barrel and stay
there.
We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to
whatever's next. There are a lot of viable options which
should have costs lower than oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel
the R&D and infrastructure buildout costs look silly to
spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs
basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure
already in place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were
finally starting to move in the right direction. At even
higher, all of a sudden the political and financial motivation
is there to make what should be happening happen.
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient
vehicles.
On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
There's an old, insightful joke about "what is the
best price to sell barrels of oil for", which states
that it's something like "$100, $100, $100, $100, $20,
$20, $100, $100, $100....."
At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do
things like hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a
lot of hurt in those same industries. There is a lot
of political and economic force in the ability to
effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a
commodity, and as a side effect, it's price, with a
turn of a valve. With additional US sources coming
online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production,
there's now a glut in the market. The question is
... at what level is this sustainable stateside? I
haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of these
lower crude prices on domestic production and more
importantly our willingness to invest in growth of our
production capabilities.
Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price
of gas when I get to the pump, but I also sell into
the oil industry, which I sure hope continues to drill
wells, since it's very good for my bottom line.
-forrest
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps
Russia/Venezuela in
the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers
like Nigeria trying to
squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds
with one stone. US
oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will
pop, and all sorts of
gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up
and we spin up
production again. The oil guys will take a
hammering and I feel bad
for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of
Americans will have a net
benefit. Macroeconomics is complex.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> From what I've read the drop is pretty much
exclusively because of OPEC.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think a lot of the low prices are due to
abundance of oil right here in
>> the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada.
I bet eventually when the
>> additional pipeline capacity is completed it
may drive things even lower,
>> but that is just my thought.
>>
>> It would be nice if they could do the same with
grain.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:53 PM, That One Guy
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I dont know how petroleum stores, the costs of
operating, etc. But I look
>>> at it as right now being a great time to get
in on it, when the rubber band
>>> snaps, you would already be at peak production
capacity, without the export
>>> and shipping to get it to its destination, in
North America at least. This
>>> is an artificially deflated market, it cant be
sustained since it is
>>> inherently and artificially inflated market.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:19 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The investment has already been made to build
the wells. I know it
>>>> would suck, but why not shut them down until
the price goes up again, then
>>>> just resume production? Even under new
ownership? Doesn't sound like a
>>>> permanent problem to me...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Bill Prince
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
>>>>
>>>> It's Saudi Arabia trying to squeeze out all
the marginal producers.
>>>> Initially it will be Russia and some of the
other marginals like Iraq &
>>>> Iran.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sure the shale oil and tar sands guys
are hurting big time right
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/13/2015 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what is really driving the price
down. Fracking, OPEC
>>>> diaspora, CAFE improvements, Russia problems ???
>>>>
>>>> From: Jeremy
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:54 AM
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Obama! (he gets blamed for
EVERYTHING, right??)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Same up here in Ohio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:35 AM, "joseph marsh"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.75 here in my area
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 13, 2015 9:35 AM, "Vlad Sedov"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vlad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I never thought I would see gas prices
this low. We have stations at
>>>>>>>> $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> All parts should go together without forcing.
You must remember that the
>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled
by you. Therefore, if you can't
>>> get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a
>>> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>
>>
>
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