I don't see how these are cable companies at all. They don't install cable
in the public right of way. Broadcast TV doesn't need a franchise agreement
or pay franchise fees, nor does satellite TV.
I think you are confusing OTT content providers with cable companies, the
latter have physical infrastructure installed in public ROW, benefitting
from use of public resources and having somewhat of a natural monopoly
because of their local "franchise" even if some towns have 2 cable
companies, like Comcast and UVerse or FIOS.
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From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:31 PM
To: Josh Reynolds
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
Josh,
That is a very interesting question. Even better what happens when
sony/ms/dish all create virtual cable companies. If I'm not selling
the service why would I need a franchise fee. If Sony is the cable
company and they sell directly to the end user, wouldn't Sony need to
be the franchise.
This could get very interesting in the next few years.
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Monday, January 19, 2015, 7:46:25 PM, you wrote:
JR> What happens when netflix/sling are considered TV service?
JR> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
JR> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
JR> On 01/19/2015 03:44 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
JR> In some areas around here as long as you are not providing TV service,
you
JR> do not need to do anything with a franchise agreement. You will even
find
JR> some counties are willing to work with you and give you info like what
JR> areas do not have franchise agreements, etc..
JR> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
JR> CLEC certification is not required for ROW access. That is just
JR> someone blowing smoke. What if you wanted to put in a water line to
water
JR> your cows? Or a culvert?
JR> I would ask for an excavation permit first and deal with the authority
JR> over that particular ROW. You have state, city and county roads as well
as
JR> private land owners. They all will have a different reaction to ROW
use.
JR> CATV folks are not CLECs (at least they donᅵt have to be) and they get
ROW
JR> access. You are an IPTV company, you haul netflix. They have to treat
you
JR> as a peer with the CATV.
JR> I would pressure any authority to cite you chapter and verse if they
deny
JR> you. Otherwise they are discriminating against you.
JR> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>*Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015
4:04 PM
JR> *To:* [email protected]*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
JR> Go to your state level elected officials. Tell them you need ROW access
JR> and until now you could have done it by being a CLEC, but the PUC is no
JR> longer honoring that, so you need them to either pass a new law or
convince
JR> the PUC to stop being dicks.
JR> Can you rent space on someone else's switch?
JR> Can they even do that? I don't know, I'm not an attorney.
JR> -----
JR> Mike Hammett
JR> Intelligent Computing
JR> Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com------------------------------
JR> *From: *"Zephyr Broadband" <[email protected]>*To: *[email protected]
JR> *Sent: *Monday, January 19, 2015 12:12:31 PM
JR> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Laying your own fiber?
JR> AFAIK, the 2 primary ways to get access to ROW for most of the US is a
JR> Franchise agreement and/or CLEC certification. This gets you into the
JR> Utility ROW Easements without issues. Many properties have ROW Utility
JR> easements.
JR> If you plan to do Video, you might as well do the CATV franchise
JR> agreement. This typically gets you into the Utility ROW easements and
JR> easements set aside for the city.?
JR> And therein lies the rub. The Colorado PUC stated last week that they
are
JR> cracking down on data-only providers filing for CLEC certification
simply
JR> for ROW access. Now, if you want certification, you have to have a Class
5
JR> switch and must plan to originate access traffic or they'll deny the
JR> application on the spot.
JR> Some states have allowed broadband providers to use utility easements.
JR> Unless you are prepared to spend a minimum of $250k for video, I
JR> recommend you run away. Dish just launch phase 1 of their internet
video
JR> offering. More channels will follow. I don't think you'll ever make
your
JR> money back here, unless you plan to be at 5k subs.
JR> Yeah, saw their plans for sling.com pop up last week. Ouch. $250k.
That's
JR> expensive, but considering the PUCs stance on data only providers...it
JR> might be cheaper than jumping into the facilities-based telecom game 15
JR> years too late.
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