SAF tests every radio thru full environmental testing prior to shipment. Test reports are available if requested.
This procedure is rare – even in the licensed world. Creates a large bottleneck in your production line. This is the only way that SAF can actually guarantee our published specifications – we actually test each radio before it ships. *************************************************************************** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> *************************************************************************** From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee It would be interesting to know what if any radios go through any functional testing before they ship. Years ago, all electronic devices went through 100% testing, I’m guessing today very few are even powered up at the end of the production line. I know I’ve seen a few routerboards with 1 bad Ethernet port out of the box, and radios that power up with some kind of warning notice like not calibrated. I do remember a plant tour video from the Orthogon guys on the testing, burn-in and calibration they do (or at least did at the time) on every PTP radio. Maybe licensed radios all get tested before shipment, I don’t know. Maybe airFibers. From: Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:10 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I had a bad SM already. We believe a defective AP as well. I have 8 installed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well. Something to look out for. We've only installed a handful of radios ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig House <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT _____ From: "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? _____ From: "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? _____ From: "John Woodfield" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 <tel:%28410%29%20708-1937> -----Original Message----- From: "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 <tel:%28410%29%20708-1937> -----Original Message----- From: "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal _____ From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> _____ From: "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? _____ From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, "Craig House" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
