So will that take more than 2 years?

What happens if Jeb beats Hillary and picks the new FCC chairman?

(Rick Perry would probably eliminate the FCC.  Oops.)


From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 7:21 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

It doesn't mean that under 25/3 is unserved at this point.   To change it for 
CAF purposes requires considerably more work, public notification, comment 
periods, etc.    

It gives us a good idea of where things are going with the FCC, but in and of 
itself it doesn't change anything - yet.

Mark Radabaugh 
Amplex
27800 Lemoyne, Ste F
Millbury, OH 43447
419-261-5996

On Jan 30, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]> 
wrote:


  Doesn't this just mean if you don't offer service of at least 25mbps your 
area won't count as served? I'm pretty sure you can call your service whatever 
you damn well please.

  On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:

    Keep in mind the cable companies don't get federal subsidies.  The cable 
data operations are unregulated information service exactly like us, and they 
can easily meet the 25/3.  

    They are opposed because it means the telcos are going to be given federal 
money to upgrade to 25/3 and become competition.

    Cable spends it's own money to compete, just like us.  They are equally 
ticked over changing the definition so that their competition, who has not 
spent their own money, and waited for government handouts is going to be 
rewarded.


    Mark Radabaugh 
    Amplex
    27800 Lemoyne, Ste F
    Millbury, OH 43447
    419-261-5996

    On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Jeremy 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:


      I found it interesting that the cable companies were claiming to be 
against this change.  This seems handcrafted by them if you ask me.  Every year 
when they request funding the WISPs in those areas (with the help of WISPA) 
file claims against them receiving those funds under the basis that 'broadband' 
is already available in those areas where they are claiming that it is not.  
This has actually worked fairly well in keeping those entities from receiving 
those funds.  Now, almost none of us meet the 'broadband' qualification and now 
they can use the government funds to build out on top of us almost uncontested.

      On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Jeremy 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

        My company is called 'Blue Spring Broadband'.  I will not be changing 
my name.  We offer dedicated connections up to 100Mbps, and more on a 
case-by-case basis (ie. I would offer 1Gbps near the NOC to anyone willing to 
pay for it).  Although we do not offer more than 15x3 to residential currently, 
I still believe we can be classified as a broadband service provider.  I 
happily give quotes on a 25x25 dedicated unlimited connection to any 
residential customers that ask for it ($1K/mo. roughly).  Until some governing 
entity tells me different that is my stance.

        On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ken Hohhof 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

          It’s depressing to think about all the government money that went to 
subsidize 1 Mbps (if that) Hughesnet service under the recovery act.

          The contradiction is like setting a standard that every citizen must 
get fresh whole grain organic locally grown low sugar low sodium food, just a 
couple years after handing out pork rinds, moon pies and Jolt cola in the 
school lunch program.


          From: Bill Prince 
          Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
          To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

          +1.  They have the added complication that they are way 
oversubscribed compared to almost everything else.

          Let's not even mention latency. 

          If "broadband" included something about latency (like "just" < 200 ms 
for instance), then they would lose big time.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/30/2015 1:17 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote:

            Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide spread any better 
than we can.



              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: That One Guy 
              To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); 
              Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

              at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically 
deliver to the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it 


              On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

                +1



                From: Af 
[mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');] On Behalf Of 
Sterling Jacobson
                Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:21 PM
                To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions



                Even if you don’t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can’t you just put 
a plan rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever 
buy, then claim broadband?



                I mean the other lower plan rates wouldn’t be broadband, but 
your company could be branded as selling broadband?



                From: Af [javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');] 
On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
                Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:40 PM
                To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
                Cc: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
                Subject: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions



                1.       Is the 25Mbps classification immediate?

                2.       What are you NOW going to call your previously 
determined ‘broadband’ service?





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                Internet Communications Inc. 
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