My career in the telecom industry spanned mostly the 80’s and 90’s, the period 
that included equal access, divestiture, and the 1996 Telecom Act that launched 
all the CLECs.  What I saw was a transition from the maternalistic attitude of 
Ma Bell (Mom as benevolent dictator) to a bunker mentality following 1996.  It 
really seemed like the RBOCs saw themselves under attack and pretty much said 
OK you bastards, if that’s how you want it, the gloves are off, we are looking 
out for ourselves now.  (more like Mom from Futurama)  Of course I’m not 
talking about the rural telcos, which is a different story, as Chuck notes.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:54 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

Just as WISPs have been, I think RLECs have been painted with a large brush. 
Many good, fewer (but too many) bad apples. Those stories of $20k+/year in 
subsidies per line. The reception of subsidies (of any amount) to bring the 
rural cost of a line less than the urban cost of a line. Windstream and 
CenturyTel both bringing in enough bonus USF money to have scaled as large as 
they  have in the past decade. Those are all excessive.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:45:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions


I don’t  think the USF pool happened prior to NECA.  It started with the 1996 
act I believe.   Before NECA AT&T was in charge of sharing the bounty with the 
rural telcos.  There was a doctrine of USF but the guvmn’t had nothing to do 
with it.  AT&T was in charge.  Or rather in CHARGE writ LARGE.  

You used to have to battle AT&T to get your piece of the pie.  Similar if all 
the ISPs  had to go battle with XO if everyone was on usage based billing and 
you gave all your monies to XO praying they give you back your  share.  That is 
the regime that all the rural telcos lived under for most of the history of 
telcos.  

Divesture broke that up, formed NECA and established a true USF.  This was 
prior to the internet.  This was to allow the mom and pop telcos in the rural 
areas to get their  fair share.  They were (and many are) just like  all of you 
guys.   Don’t hate  on them just because they enjoy the pioneers preference.  
They bought a cord board and spent their lives running wires to each house.  
They borrowed from the RUS and  were helped a bit with subsidies.  Why hate 
them?  They were just like  you, just 100 years ago.

Just because the WISP  world came along later and could do many of the same 
things cheaper and better, it  comes of sounding sour grapes when the telcos 
get the benefit if a long history of  providing good service.  They are all 
currently deploying FTTH and that  is clearly where the FCC wants them to be.

Moreover they have a legal “duty to carry” which is a common carrier doctrine 
dating back to the Roman Empire.  They have many other duties, burdens and 
regulatory requirements.  You don’t.

Just a few short years ago, it would  have been illegal to even have been a 
WISP.  Be thankful for what you have.  Gheeze already.

From: mailto:[email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:19 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to 
get federal funds to help them with network builds.  THEY have PISSED AWAY all 
USF funds they keep getting.  How the hell do you think Century Link bought 
Embarq!


The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to in 1996.  All for the very 
purpose to support these idiots.  


I want everyone who voted for this rule fired and citizenship revoked!


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> wrote:


  According to 477, if I have a census area that only has 1Mbps customers, then 
that area is labeled under served, correct?

  Looks like the FCC just figured a way to hand their buddies grant money or 
(dons tin foil hat) ultimately take over the Internet infrastructure.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bill Prince 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:27 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

    I don't know if we can answer that question until we see how the rule is 
worded if and when it actually becomes a rule.


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