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----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:33:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"? I remember that name Jaime Solorza On Feb 21, 2015 9:17 AM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote: Fiber + DC. That's what the big boys do. That's what we should be doing. PoE is unnecessary. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Bill Prince" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:06:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just "Powerpointware"? At 100 watts per BTS, how is the power conveyed up the tower? That is way too much power for any kind of POE, so there must be some special kind of cabling required? Likewise, there must be an SFP in the BTS for fiber? bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/20/2015 8:01 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: <blockquote> Lots of specific content on this in recent custom webinars. In not good yet communicating the features; they are new to me, like selective frequency scheduling and coordinated multipoint. One thing is for certain, we'll all find out soon enough. So far we are doing better than PMP450s in the same area. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Jason McKemie < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> So how does your equipment handle interference? All of the wimax gear I have seen (including Alvarion) falls flat on its face with a very moderate amount of interference. On Friday, February 20, 2015, Patrick Leary < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> "AP" is language from the the Wi-Fi world. "BTS" is from the telecom world. Some who build television level gear take umbrage with being indentified in the same language as consumer grade Wi-Fi. Our base stations have multicore processors. Eight cores actually. And big boy P.A.s. LTE goes a step further calling base stations "eNodeBs" and CPEs "UEs." Use equipment. That smart phone in your pocket is a UE. On Feb 20, 2015 9:34 PM, "Steve D" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Aka AP. For whatever reason every manufacturer has own name for ap and CPE. :/ On Feb 20, 2015 5:45 PM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> BTS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 20, 2015 8:42 PM, "Patrick Leary" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Yes. Yes, you can: Beamwidth of the sectors? Your call TJ. Our preference is Alpha Wireless brand antennas. Expensive. Very high quality with excellent front to back ratios. Their 4 port dual pol.dual slant 65 degree antennas roll off nicely at 3dB and essentially provide a 120 pattern. Wanna see what a really nice F to B looks like? We like the 65s, because at 18dBi they maximize power density and, as always, are simply good design because they minimize the ambient noise they hear.: Inline image 1 Max range?: Currently our latest LTE rev has its ranging up to 39 km before it losing timing. At 30 km (18 miles) we can do full modulation with true (as in Fresnel-based true) LOS. So all day long -75 at 30 km LOS. NLOS" we all know the only thing in common with our understanding is the inability to see the other side due to "trees." How many trees, the trajectory, the tree type, etc. defines the reality. THAT SAID, what we've learned is the WHATEVER you can do with 900 where YOU are, you can do a tab better in range with our 3.65 GHz and at much higher capacity. Now that might mean you hit a -83 with your 900 MHz and we are -91, but even at that I'm doing over 7 Mbps DL. Total per sector throughput?: As it ships today, about 100 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. When both carriers are active, 200 Mbps. In about 15 months, if connecting in higher mods, that will double with MU-MIMO, so 400 Mbps per BTS, or 1,200 Mbps in a 3 BTS tower. Msrp or street price aprox?: Street price? Maybe about $6,800 per BTS, but that's not the full answer, which is more complex. I'm happy to do a dedicated one-on-one webinar with anyone, or all of you. Availability? : Terrible right now. Our increase in business has hurt availability and our channels are minimal. All our guys are trying to scale to meet the new demand, but it's hell catching up. Our largest partner has seen his business increase over 75% in 3 months. We just brought on ISP Supplies; they've been great, doing every single thing they said they'd do. They'll be scaling up shortly. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM, TJ Trout < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Can we get some basic info on this system ? Beamwidth of the sectors ? Max range ?, total per sector throughput, msrp or street price aprox? Availability? On Feb 20, 2015 5:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> I see I should have paid attention in math class. Lol. I am familiar with radios going down to -125dbm from SCADA work. I had an SA which dug down to -135....it makes sense. Jaime Solorza On Feb 20, 2015 3:14 PM, "Patrick Leary" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> It's just the spec Jaime. Nothing to do with LTE on that front. 4x4 MIMO adds 3 dB to the uplink. Then, our sensitivity is crazy. We are -75 at QAM64 5/6. That's about 8dB better than most stuff at the same mod and coding, so that 8 dB + the 3 dB on the UL due to 4x4 and that's where much of the NLOS is coming from. The other is power. We are 30 dBm PER PORT, so 36 dBm in 4x4. That means we can use most any antenna and get maximum power density. In fact, it'd be rare where you would not have to turn down the power to meet the FCC's 43 dB EIRP at 20 MHz in 3.65 GHz. Compare that to those with only 22 dBm per port and only 2x2, so about 25 dBm max output power. Not a lot of choice there that'll still let you get even to FCC max. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> My brain wants to explode...guess I am old school ..never considered 3.65 or 5 ghz NLOS frequency. . Sounds exciting. Good luck Patrick... Jaime Solorza On Feb 20, 2015 1:18 PM, "Patrick Leary" < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Dear Friends, Many of you are receiving marketing ads from many companies that will be there at WISP America, all encouraging you to see their wares. We are thrilled to join them and to spend time with you, but instead of shiny marketing, I thought I'd share with you some raw collected quotes from the past few months from the mouths of people experiencing Telrad's COMPACT solution. We look forward to seeing you there. To borrow the words of a customer, I have a feeling this is gonna be fun. P.S. - All comments below reflect 3.65 GHz at legal power levels. - Patrick, North American Director of BD, Telrad 1. "We got our first LTE BS up to test yesterday. So far, distance and NLOS testing has been impressive. Just for the hell of it, I brought a CPE home, set it on my living room table, it connected right up at -113 and is consistently delivering 20+Mbps throughput. I have a feeling this is gonna be fun. It’s nice to be this excited about a wireless product again...Still sitting on the coffee table, tweaked the signal a little bit, -108 with 10db SNR. Got 36Mbps down/5Mbps Up." - Bryce, Netago [Note: Those are RSRP numbers, not RSSI. LTE uses RSRP, as its a more specific measurement drilling into the subcarrier level. To compare to RSSI, just add 30 dB, so -113 RSRP is -83 RSSI.] 2. "I’m blown away by how much better the reception and range is on this system vs the [old] one. I drove around with the CPE laying on my dash and never once dropped the signal from one end of the city to the other." City IT manager in a Texas town. Name and city withheld. [Note: We do not recommend or advise playing "mobile" with fixed CPE. FCC says that's a no go.] 3. "There are no red flags." - Nathan Stooke, CEO, Wisper Internet 4. "No way. I don't understand how this is working." - Eric Ozrelic, CEO, Webformix 5. "Gentlemen: This changes EVERYTHING. I’m dumbstruck- It’s like showing a very cold caveman fire for the first time - I really don’t know how to describe it." - name withheld 6. "-53 @ 6 miles - No Line of Sight. Tech is at the home right now and cannot believe Telrad picked up." - Daniel Moore, CEO, Unggoy 7. "You have all been class acts! The whole team has been awesome." - Eric Flanery, Engineer, First Step Internet 8. "I've been in this business for 8 years and I've never seen anything like this." - name withheld And I'll close with this pic of a 2.5 mile CPE at -67 and zero LOS. Courtesy of Jorge Santiago, CTO, BridgeNet Inline image 3 Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 [email protected] [this address is only for AFMUG] p [email protected] [this is my corporate address] </blockquote> -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 [email protected] [this address is only for AFMUG] p [email protected] [this is my corporate address] </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 [email protected] [this address is only for AFMUG] p [email protected] [this is my corporate address] </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 [email protected] [this address is only for AFMUG] p [email protected] [this is my corporate address] </blockquote> </blockquote>
