Right. EIRP.  Should have clarified.

I do remember flying near one of the phased array radar installations (part of the DEW line, I think) somewhere between Anchorage and Fairbanks way back in 1991. As I approached the radar I started hearing a "whoop whoop whoop" in my intercom. There was some sort of RF warning on the sectional, so I decided to turn off my radios. But I still heard the whoop sound. Hmmm. I then turned off the intercom, and the whoop sound went away. Wow. At that point I turned off everything until I got several miles down range.

I don't know if those radars are still in operation or not.

bp
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On 2/24/2015 8:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
EIRP.
That is a 100 kW transmitter and a 10 dB antenna.
Don’t fly your plane too close to those.  I did it once.
*From:* Ty Featherling <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:23 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 711Mhz carrier?
1mil Watts? Whoa!
-Ty
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I read somewhere about lots of intermod issues with the transition
    to DTV a few years back. Probably more pronounced with the kind of
    power levels they are using on some DTV stations.  I know that at
    least a couple of DTV stations are transmitting at 90 dBm up on
    Sutro in SF.

    bp
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    On 2/24/2015 6:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    The inadvertent diode story has been around for a long time.  I
    think it was much more of a problem when you had two broadcasters
    at a site where the difference between their frequencies was on a
    2 way FM repeater input frequency. Every active electronic device
    on the whole site could do the same thing. Remember how everyone
    used to obsess about intermod products at tower sites. Doesn’t
    seem to be much of a problem any more.  Or perhaps it is but we
    are all on cell phones now.
    *From:* Bill Prince <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2015 5:14 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 711Mhz carrier?
    Oh I know.  Our tower manager at Black Mt. goes semi-ballistic
    when he sees anything on the tower that is not HDG or stainless
    or silicon-bronze. Then tells the story of rusting
    bolts/nuts/washers turning into diodes in the presence of
    higher-power RF.  I don't know how high the power needs to get,
    but we have seen some interesting side-effects on unshielded
    cable and other unshielded components.

    bp
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    On 2/23/2015 4:04 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

    Noise can come from most unexpected places. CQ rag had a story
    on spark plug caused noise on motorcycle knocking out a
    satellite system on bank building.   Chucks advise is good
    And that would be my first step

    Jaime Solorza

    On Feb 23, 2015 3:08 PM, "Peter Kranz" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Had an AT&T contractor show up at one of our datacenter
        sites today and claim that one of our radio systems was
        emitting a carrier at 711Mhz and he pointed at where we have
        a Dragonwave Compact 18Ghz system and Redline AN-80i 5Ghz
        system mounted on the building.

        711Mhz doesn’t sound like an IF of either of these systems
        to me, but I’ve got tickets in with the equipment manuf. It
        looks like they are some 3^rd party AT&T has sweeping
        buildings downtown. Anyone dealt with these guys before? He
        told me he measured a -87 with his directional antenna 10
        feet away from the equipment and acted like that was a
        really big deal, sounds like a pretty low level to me
        honestly. Anyone know what the legal limits for spurious
        emissions are in the 700-800Mhz band?

        *Peter Kranz
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