I don’t think you can yet.  They are still limited to 64QAM.


I certainly can't yet because I'm stuck with wimax due to a lot of old CPE in the field. I do look forward to the day when we get to load the LTE firmware.

Correct me if I'm wrong here Patrick:
64QAM5/6 = 5bits/hz.
20mhz channel * 5bits/hz = 100meg.
Dual carrier = 40mhz which is where the 200 meg comes from.

(1) That's raw physical layer data though, right? How much is lost in overhead? Or put another way, what will my layer3 payload be?

(2) Since we have to duplex this 100meg, what DL/UL ratios are supported?

(3) That's using 4/5ths of the (current) 3.65 band. Depending on how the NPRM comes out we may get more, but right now we have 50mhz to work with. Is there a channel re-use plan where I can keep using that 40mhz over and over, or will I be limited to one of these 40mhz base stations in a geographic area? Or are we banking on the new rules giving us more spectrum to make this feasible?

(4) If I happen to overlap with other operators in 3.65ghz, how well can we coexist? With GPS sync can we get our LTE and another company's Wimax right next to each other? What if the other guy is using something like Ubiquiti or Ligowave that isn't synchronized with anything....how bad will we clobber each other?

(5) You've said earlier that MU-MIMO will double capacity again to get us to 400meg. I don't know enough about it to agree or disagree with that claim. I have a pretty good notion of what spread of QAM rates we'll get, but not really any idea how to consider MU-MIMO in capacity planning. While I'm sure it's possible to demonstrate a doubling of speed in a test range, is it /realistic/ to assume I'll really get double capacity?

If you're greeted with skepticism when you throw out a number like 400 meg, it's probably because people have these sorts of questions in their mind. The class is listening if you'd care to educate us.




Again, more incorrect assumptions. It really is easy to get good, accurate information. One only needs to ask.

On Feb 25, 2015 12:53 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I don’t think you can yet.  They are still limited to 64QAM.

    Rory

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
    *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:54 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica Updates?

    But if you can do 200/400Mb/s out of one sector wouldn't it be
    worth it?

    On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Base station costs too much... $8-10k per sector, CPE's aren't bad
    through $270'ish or something, ended up being what a 450SM plus
    reflector cost.


    Kurt Fankhauser

    Wavelinc Communications

    P.O. Box 126

    Bucyrus, OH 44820

    http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

    tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

    fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>

    On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Jason McKemie
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Ha, that's laughable. From a very specific vendor and/or some ISPs
    who have committed to their system I'm guessing? ;-)



    On Tuesday, February 24, 2015, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Word on the street is "LTE or die" in the next 5 years, take your
    pick...


    Kurt Fankhauser

    Wavelinc Communications

    P.O. Box 126

    Bucyrus, OH 44820

    http://www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com/>

    tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

    fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>

    On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Anybody find some cool, new stuff at WispAmerica?

    I had to stay behind and keep the wheels spinning.

    Paul McCall, Pres.

    PDMNet / Florida Broadband

    658 Old Dixie Highway

    Vero Beach, FL 32962

    772-564-6800 <tel:772-564-6800> office

    772-473-0352 <tel:772-473-0352> cell

    www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/>

    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>


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