Where is "local area"? I can infer from your domain in Northwest Ohio, but 
could you give something a little more precise? 




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From: [email protected] 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:28:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Local loop" 

Mike 
I only know 3 people in my local area that have fiber but I know there 
is more but I dont know who else have fiber in my area. 

Tim 

On 2015-02-27 08:13, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> I know more about what fiber is where than anyone else in the WISP 
> industry and have been helping people find solutions for ten years. I 
> have been building a GIS system of every provider's map that I can 
> beg, borrow or steal. I know where to find maps for most of the ones 
> that aren't in a GIS format. 
> 
> I'm now leveraging this knowledge through Erich to help people out in 
> alternative ways. 
> 
> It is asinine to expect fiber delivered to your door from anyone other 
> than the incumbents at a decent rate due to construction. You have to 
> meet the alternative options on their turf or work through someone 
> like Erich. 
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> FROM: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> 
> TO: [email protected] 
> SENT: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:43:20 PM 
> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] "Local loop" 
> 
> * 
> What tool are you using to find the fiber? Zayo's long haul is several 
> blocks from this location and in my experience for them to tap the 
> long haul is like 100k + construction to get it to me, probably would 
> be too expensive 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> 
>> Integra or Zayo aren't good enough? 
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>> FROM: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> 
>> TO: [email protected] 
>> SENT: Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:54:54 PM 
>> 
>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] "Local loop" 
>> 
>> Modesto, CA. Only thing I can find without doing a PTP is at&t or 
>> some other provider with att loop. Already have Comcast at this 
>> location. 
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Turlock area? 
>>> 
>>> Integra and Zayo both have routes through that area. They might be 
>>> willing to open things up. Level 3, Comcast and XO (same route) 
>>> have long haul but are not very likely to open up the longhaul. 
>>> 
>>> Not guaranteed to be exhaustive. 
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>>> FROM: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> 
>>> TO: [email protected] 
>>> SENT: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:31:57 PM 
>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] "Local loop" 
>>> 
>>> Location? 
>>> 
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: TJ Trout <[email protected]> 
>>> To: [email protected] 
>>> Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:10:56 -0600 (CST) 
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] "Local loop" 
>>> 
>>> So I'm looking over a upstream quote from century link for 1 gig 
>>> dia and 
>>> they are using att as the local loop, where exactly does att and 
>>> century 
>>> link meet so that CL picks up the local loop and gives me ip 
>>> transit ? Just 
>>> some common exchange where they both have facilities ? 
>>> 
>>> Would be a lot cheaper if I could just get the same local loop 
>>> price to 
>>> some internet exchange (same exchange as this quote? Who knows) 
>>> where I 
>>> could pickup some cheap transit... 
>>> 
>>> My only option at this location is att, anyone have any feedback 
>>> on some 
>>> arrangement that isn't uber expensive ? 
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