It's the last mile problem in a nutshell. Where we are, we have 40 acre
minimum lost size, with lots of open space between "lots". We're lucky
in some areas to have one sub per square mile. We run POPs with as few
as 12 subs.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/3/2015 6:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Population density is very low in some rural areas. New construction
has been pretty much nada, with the housing bust and wind farms, no
new subdivisions, no farmettes. The only houses are where farmhouses
or 1 room schoolhouses used to stand.
Then factor in you just can’t achieve 100% market share. No matter how
good your service and price, some of the available subscribers will
instead go with WISP competitors, DSL, satellite, mobile hotspot, or
“I don’t need one of those newfangled computer thingies”.
So sometimes you’re doing good to get 15 subs.
Of course if you can double your range, you may quadruple the
available market.
Someone on the list posted a few days back about not going through
granite. I assume even LTE can’t do that however.
*From:* Patrick Leary <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:41 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a
gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive.
30dBm per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs
on the market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your
in home Wi-Fi router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our
own ATPC algorithms too.
On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as
you need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this
community to walk you guys (or those inclined) through it (any
takers?). I do not think we can be a solution that makes sense where
you only have 15 clients. That's the blunt truth. Unless you are doing
50 Mbps customers, I am not your micropop (but I can do that in some
modest scale). That said, I wonder where that 15 number comes from?
Can you please explain on what architecture that is based? Range?
Height? Etc. If it is based on a micropop and even then on what just
that pop can see, I'd say that's likely a model invented out of
necessity due to the poor performance of the system you are using.
I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his
"NLOS" area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes.
He is at 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my
world, that's LOS all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage
that so many systems to can't deal with that and you've all been fed
that that is "normal." It is not. It is just gear with terrible specs
where the only R&D is at the software level, and even that is scant.
....You do not have NLOS problems. You have equipment problems. How
such a product ever was allowed to go to market as a "solution" for
rural broadband is, to me, cynical and reflective of playing a market
to skim opportunistic dollars from a market segment that sometimes
seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 MHz owners who got
sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged as a 700 MHz
"solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that crap and
THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they come
out with something new?
WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders
that love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling
a car that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you
should ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets.
Sometimes, cheap is just cheap.
Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or
just a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either.
*Patrick Leary*
***M*727.501.3735
<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get?
I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make
sure we never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area.
I have some towers with 15 clients.
Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question?
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Patrick Leary <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM
*Subject:*[AFMUG] New feedback
This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new
customers. If he wishes to identify himself, he will....
*Patrick Leary*
*M*727.501.3735
<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
*From:*
*Sent:*Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM
*To:* Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar
*Subject:* Interesting Statistic
"Patrick / Nick –
Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent
out an interesting email to our staff this evening. In February
with only 20 working days we completed 40 installs with one
technician... This is only icing on the cake, especially since we
are onboarding two more techs... I ran some additional numbers and
found that out of the “Telrad” installations that we scheduled,
100 % were successful both of these months. This is a game
changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the need to waste
further time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is not
without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and
inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this
spring/summer/fall. I cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn
things in the air.
Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful
for the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...."
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