Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's
the penalty?

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

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> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
>
> Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS
> cluster?
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> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
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>>  Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x (2.3
>> and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is all the
>> same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but 40 dBm per
>> port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 pound COMPACT 1000)
>>
>>
>>
>> *Patrick Leary*
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>> *M* 727.501.3735
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>> <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
>>
>>
>>
>> Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences
>> between the models?
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells:
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>> 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total
>> one box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR).
>>
>> 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs
>> and 2 gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely
>> stackable.
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>>
>> Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need:
>>
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>>
>> Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't
>> get it.
>>
>> If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS
>> module.
>>
>> PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't,
>> then don't.
>>
>> Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont.
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>>
>> These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or
>> papa bear size).
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>>
>> *Patrick Leary*
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>> *M* 727.501.3735
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>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
>>
>>
>>
>> Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license?
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
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>> Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation?
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest
>> option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any
>> other. NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over
>> Telnet or direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it
>> is. That's still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Includes:
>>
>>
>>
>> 735270
>>
>> CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7
>>
>> 1
>>
>> 715773
>>
>> LTE COMPACT SW License
>>
>> 1
>>
>> 700258
>>
>> BMAX-4M-GPS
>>
>> 1
>>
>> 300736
>>
>> ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports
>> (RF cables NOT included)
>>
>> 1
>>
>> 715620
>>
>> BreezeWay-1010-50
>> (per Compact HW license)
>>
>> 1
>>
>> 715621
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>> BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50
>> (50 subs. license)
>>
>> 1
>>
>> SLA
>>
>> 1 Year SLA
>>
>> 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Patrick Leary*
>>
>> *M* 727.501.3735
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>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Leary
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
>>
>>
>>
>> No, could be much less. Give me a minute...
>>
>>
>>
>> *Patrick Leary*
>>
>> *M* 727.501.3735
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>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Patrick,
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>>
>> I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize
>> what the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider
>> this further along with cost per sub?
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>>
>> Thanks,
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>>
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>> John Woodfield, President
>>
>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>
>> 410-870-WiFi
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
>>
>> Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a
>> gimmick. The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm
>> per port. 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the
>> market. not consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi
>> router. We build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC
>> algorithms too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as
>> you need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to
>> walk you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think
>> we can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients.
>> That's the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not
>> your micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder
>> where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what
>> architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a
>> micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely
>> a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system
>> you are using.
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>>
>> I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his
>> "NLOS" area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is
>> at 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's
>> LOS all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems
>> to can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It
>> is not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the
>> software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems.
>> You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to
>> market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and
>> reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market
>> segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700
>> MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged
>> as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that
>> crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they
>> come out with something new?
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>>
>>
>> WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that
>> love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car
>> that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should
>> ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is
>> just cheap.
>>
>>
>>
>> Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or
>> just a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either.
>>
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>> *Patrick Leary*
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>> *M* 727.501.3735
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>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New feedback
>>
>>
>>
>> Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get?
>>
>> I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure
>> we never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area.
>>
>> I have some towers with 15 clients.
>>
>> Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question?
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Patrick Leary
>>
>> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New feedback
>>
>>
>>
>> This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers.
>> If he wishes to identify himself, he will....
>>
>>
>>
>> *Patrick Leary*
>>
>> *M* 727.501.3735
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>>  <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet>
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>>
>>
>> *From:*
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM
>> *To:* Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar
>> *Subject:* Interesting Statistic
>>
>>
>>
>> "Patrick / Nick –
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>>
>>
>> Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an
>> interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20
>> working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is
>> only icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs.
>> .. I ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad”
>> installations that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these
>> months. This is a game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the
>> need to waste further time with the dreaded site surveys.  Our success is
>> not without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution.  Truly amazing and
>> inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall.  I
>> cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things in the air.
>>
>>
>>
>> Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for
>> the “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...."
>>
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