The best way to go is probably going to depend a lot on what hardware is
already in place. if it's just cheap unmanaged switches everywhere now, I'd
personally start by replacing them all with Mikrotik routers.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

>   I think it takes less new hardware and less expensive hardware.  If you
> have a flat network, you are almost certainly using switches and many
> switches will support VLANs.  So nothing to buy there.
>
>  *From:* Bill Prince <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:42 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a
> bridgednetworktorouted.
>
> Right.  Flat and bridged are two different things.  If you are bridging
> VLANs all over the place, that doesn't really qualify as flat.
>
> I might argue that bridging VLANs might be a bit more complicated to
> manage, but I don't really know; I've never tried it.
>
> Routing works for me.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/9/2015 8:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>  Yeah, I should have said flat network.  I think many of us had a flat
> bridged network when we first started.
>
>  *From:* Jeremy <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:29 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
> networktorouted.
>
>  I am one of those people.  We run a fully bridged network with segmented
> VLANs to each AP.  We also prune the VLANs over each backhaul link so the
> packets only go where they are supposed to.  This segments the broadcast
> domain and resolves the majority of the issues that a bridged network can
> suffer from.  A bridged network doesn't have to be a 'flat' network.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:23 AM, That One Guy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged
>> network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be
>> a cost effective solution for you as well.
>>
>> I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from
>> under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50
>> network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have
>> all your routers on your desk before you begin
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point.
>>> A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.
>>>
>>> How many APs and how many sites?  Are the switches at the sites capable
>>> of supporting VLANs?  That is where I would start.  Either that or
>>> replacing the switches with routers.  Personally, one router with VLANS to
>>> each AP via managed switches would be my preference.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network
>>> torouted.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed.
>>> This is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want
>>> to end the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that
>>> is willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on
>>> how the process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a
>>> week working over the phone and through a remote desktop app.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use
>>> per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are
>>> just to blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it
>>> under control now before we get to large.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik
>>> and butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never
>>> implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Contact me off list [email protected] if you can help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>
>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
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