I'm okay with PoE at the house. Everything on a tower and enterprise customers should be fiber + DC. I'd be okay with something like a Rocket without and a Rocket Premium with. ePMP connectorized without, ePMP GPS with.
I know quite a few people with diesel cars. They love their 50 MPG+. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 12:22:23 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted. I hope vendors understand that not every radio should be fiber + DC. For example, CPE radios should remain POE. And all the people deploying Netonix switches at their towers are going to be pissed if every low cost AP and backhaul radio now wants fiber + DC and won’t accept GigE w/POE. It’s like you may want diesel on your truck, not sure you want it on your car. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted. I'd like that, but getting SFPs seems to be a big enough challenge for this industry. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> To: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 11:44:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted. Yes, that’s why we re moving to a Carrier Ethernet 2.0 environment Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > Date: Monday, March 9, 2015 at 12:34 PM To: Gino Villarini < [email protected] > Cc: " [email protected] " < [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted. Lack of layer2 tools from most vendors in our industry make diagnostics and performance testing problematic. On Mar 9, 2015 7:31 AM, Gino Villarini < [email protected] > wrote: Nothing wrong with bridging if its done right Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Chuck McCown < [email protected] > Reply-To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] > Date: Monday, March 9, 2015 at 11:29 AM To: " [email protected] " < [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted. Nothing against a bridged network as long as every AP is on a VLAN to a router or is fed from a router port directly. I would never bridge a bunch of APs together ever again. That is a move that we all came to regret in the early days. (back before NAT and SM isolation and other nice things were added to Canopy) From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted. not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be a cost effective solution for you as well. I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50 network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have all your routers on your desk before you begin On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point. A bridged WISP is asking for trouble. How many APs and how many sites? Are the switches at the sites capable of supporting VLANs? That is where I would start. Either that or replacing the switches with routers. Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP via managed switches would be my preference. From: Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network torouted. I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed. This is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want to end the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how the process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a week working over the phone and through a remote desktop app. My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are just to blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it under control now before we get to large. I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik and butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never implemented. Contact me off list [email protected] if you can help. Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. </blockquote>
