I think the point is, even on the radios that have DC + SFP, there still needs to be an RJ45 jack that supports PoE... which, really, I don't see a good reason why they would take that away.
I agree that for stuff like Rockets, there should just be two versions - a cheap one that's basically what we have now and a premium model that adds SFP... that way everyone can be happy. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm okay with PoE at the house. Everything on a tower and enterprise > customers should be fiber + DC. I'd be okay with something like a Rocket > without and a Rocket Premium with. ePMP connectorized without, ePMP GPS > with. > > I know quite a few people with diesel cars. They love their 50 MPG+. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 12:22:23 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a > bridged networktorouted. > > I hope vendors understand that not every radio should be fiber + DC. > For example, CPE radios should remain POE. And all the people deploying > Netonix switches at their towers are going to be pissed if every low cost > AP and backhaul radio now wants fiber + DC and won’t accept GigE w/POE. > It’s like you may want diesel on your truck, not sure you want it on your > car. > > > *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 11:46 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged > networktorouted. > > I'd like that, but getting SFPs seems to be a big enough challenge for > this industry. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *Cc: *[email protected] > > *Sent: *Monday, March 9, 2015 11:44:38 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged > networktorouted. > > Yes, that’s why we re moving to a Carrier Ethernet 2.0 environment > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, March 9, 2015 at 12:34 PM > To: Gino Villarini <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged > networktorouted. > > > Lack of layer2 tools from most vendors in our industry make diagnostics > and performance testing problematic. > On Mar 9, 2015 7:31 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nothing wrong with bridging if its done right > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: Chuck McCown <[email protected]> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, March 9, 2015 at 11:29 AM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged > networktorouted. > > Nothing against a bridged network as long as every AP is on a VLAN to a > router or is fed from a router port directly. > > I would never bridge a bunch of APs together ever again. > That is a move that we all came to regret in the early days. (back before > NAT and SM isolation and other nice things were added to Canopy) > > *From:* That One Guy <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:23 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged > networktorouted. > > not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged > network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be > a cost effective solution for you as well. > > I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from > under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50 > network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have > all your routers on your desk before you begin > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point. > A bridged WISP is asking for trouble. > > How many APs and how many sites? Are the switches at the sites capable of > supporting VLANs? That is where I would start. Either that or replacing > the switches with routers. Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP > via managed switches would be my preference. > > *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network > torouted. > > > I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed. This > is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want to > end the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is > willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how > the process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a week > working over the phone and through a remote desktop app. > > > > My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use > per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are > just to blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it > under control now before we get to large. > > > > I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik and > butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never > implemented. > > > > Contact me off list [email protected] if you can help. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon Yuchasz > > GogebicRange.net > > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your > team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > >
