Depending on the amount of current needed, I have a product that puts POE on 
the cable and then takes it back off again.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:22 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridgednetworktorouted.

I hope vendors understand that not every radio should be fiber + DC.  For 
example, CPE radios should remain POE.  And all the people deploying Netonix 
switches at their towers are going to be pissed if every low cost AP and 
backhaul radio now wants fiber + DC and won’t accept GigE w/POE.  It’s like you 
may want diesel on your truck, not sure you want it on your car.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:46 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted.

I'd like that, but getting SFPs seems to be a big enough challenge for this 
industry.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
To: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 11:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted.


Yes, that’s why we re moving to a Carrier Ethernet 2.0 environment  



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com   
@aeronetpr



From: Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, March 9, 2015 at 12:34 PM
To: Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged networktorouted.


Lack of layer2 tools from most vendors in our industry make diagnostics and 
performance testing problematic.

On Mar 9, 2015 7:31 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

  Nothing wrong with bridging if its done right



  Gino A. Villarini
  President
  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  www.aeronetpr.com   
  @aeronetpr



  From: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
  Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
  Date: Monday, March 9, 2015 at 11:29 AM
  To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged 
networktorouted.


  Nothing against a bridged network as long as every AP is on a VLAN to a 
router or is fed from a router port directly.

  I would never bridge a bunch of APs together ever again.  
  That is a move that we all came to regret in the early days. (back before NAT 
and SM isolation and other nice things were added to Canopy)  

  From: That One Guy 
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:23 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged 
networktorouted.

  not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged network 
and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be a cost 
effective solution for you as well. 

  I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from under 
me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50 network sucks 
a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have all your routers on 
your desk before you begin

  On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point.
    A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.  

    How many APs and how many sites?  Are the switches at the sites capable of 
supporting VLANs?  That is where I would start.  Either that or replacing the 
switches with routers.  Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP via 
managed switches would be my preference.  

    From: Brandon Yuchasz 
    Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network 
torouted.

    I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed. This 
is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want to end 
the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is willing 
to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how the process 
works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a week working over the 
phone and through a remote desktop app. 



    My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use per 
SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are just to 
blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it under 
control now before we get to large.



    I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik and 
butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never 
implemented. 



    Contact me off list [email protected] if you can help.



    Thanks,

    Brandon Yuchasz

    GogebicRange.net





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