Thanks!!!!! This list is like graduate school

Jaime Solorza
On Mar 31, 2015 4:43 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ground bounce is where the ground potential moves.  Usually it's a phrase
> used in high speed circuit design where the switching currents cause enough
> current to flow that the negative reference for a given part to be higher
> or lower than the rest of the circuit.
>
> A fair number of people seem to use it in grounding where you see
> intermittent non zero voltages at a specific point in the grounding bus.
> Although now I think about it, this would normally make a surge suppressor
> less likely to trip.
> On Mar 31, 2015 11:26 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok.  I just asked my two automation engineers to explain ground bounce.
>> They never the term.  They assumed that voltage is getting injected or
>> introduced into line somewhere.  Recommended voltmeter and checking wires
>> first
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Mar 31, 2015 11:14 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is this a higher RF site?
>>>
>>> I don't remember is the GIGE-APC high voltage?   If this is a low
>>> voltage unit, you may be seeing some sort of ground bounce and/or RF
>>> triggering the surge supressor.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just changed out an ATOM mikrotik to a CCR, and found that it is
>>>> Incrementing FCS Errors exactly every 30 seconds on the Ethernet line from
>>>> a Trango LYNX.  The lynx is powered via DC, so the Data line is clean of
>>>> POE.  I am using a GIGE-APC Unit on the Ethernet line.
>>>>
>>>> What I found through testing, was that the FCS Errors only happened
>>>> when the GIGE-APC was plugged into the chassis.  They happened at exact 30
>>>> second intervals.  Because of this I'm guessing that there is something
>>>> introduced via the ground that is causing them.  If I pull the GIGE-APC out
>>>> of the Chassis, the errors stopped, if I plugged it back in, the errors
>>>> came back, at the exact same clock points (in my CCR Log, always at 06 and
>>>> 36 seconds regardless of the timing of plugging/unplugging).  I'm using the
>>>> 1U APC chassis, and there are other GIGE-APC, 444APC-HV, and GIGE-POE-APC
>>>> units in it. None of the other equipment is plugged into the CCR, so unsure
>>>> if it would increment FCS Errors on those.  They are all plugged into
>>>> RB1100's, and have no errors logged in the mikrotik.
>>>>
>>>> Any place to start troubleshooting something like this?  Would it make
>>>> sense that something on the ground plane could cause these Ethernet errors?
>>>>
>>>> I believe that this is causing some very low level packetloss through
>>>> the link, about 1 packet every 5 minutes or so, I'm guessing based on if
>>>> the ping falls directly on the error frame.
>>>>
>>>> Nate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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