Never, ever ever.

Josh

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:20 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> I agree, at least try to figure it out. I would replace the RB and see
> what happens. Never rule out MikroTik ethernet being stupid!
>
>
> On 4/6/2015 3:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>> I have other sites with 450G and 493G in same configuration, also 2011.
>> So I'm thinking it's something else, or a bad router.  If I were to replace
>> it with something else, I have an 850Gx2 sitting here.  But this site only
>> has one AP, so that would be overkill.  It doesn't look like this site will
>> ever have enough subs to get sectorized, so the easiest thing would be to
>> just put a Syncpipe Parasitic up there.  But I'd like to get to the bottom
>> of the problem.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 3:05 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10/100 vs GigE SyncInjector
>>
>> Replace it with a 750GL?
>>
>> On 4/6/2015 2:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>> This is a 450G on 6.19.
>>> The main symptom is port up/down events in the log.
>>> If it's bad enough, the router will start showing that it is only
>>> advertising 10M to the peer, and the status will go to 10M.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
>>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:39 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10/100 vs GigE SyncInjector
>>>
>>> I have two 10/100 SyncInjectors at two sites. One is a RB1100AHx2 still
>>> on v5.25. The other is a RB493G on v6.21.1. I don't see any negotiation
>>> issues or CRC/FCS errors, etc.
>>>
>>> Also, I don't think the GigE PoE on the 450 uses all 8 wires for power,
>>> still only 4, 5, 7 & 8 are powered.
>>>
>>> On 4/6/2015 12:20 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've mostly gotten rid of problems with Mikrotik ports not wanting to
>>>> work at 100M when 450 APs are powered from a 10/100 Syncinjector, by
>>>> changing out the WB surge suppressors from LV to GigE.  One site still
>>>> seems to have some issues, which go away if using the onboard GPS and
>>>> turning off sync over power.
>>>>
>>>> So I can change out the router, Syncinjector, surge suppressor, cable
>>>> or AP. If changing out the Syncinjector, I could use another 10/100 version
>>>> or spend the extra money for the GigE version.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone done a comparison?  Is there any difference between the
>>>> 10/100 and GigE versions as far as sync over power making Mikrotik Ethernet
>>>> ports flap at 100M and then stop advertising 100M altogether?  I'm thinking
>>>> it could be worse because the power is actually going on the data pins via
>>>> the transformers, or better because it is using all 8 wires, or maybe it
>>>> makes no difference since power is still not across twisted pairs.
>>>>
>>>> I do realize I won't get more than 100 Mbps throughput unless I use the
>>>> GigE version (duh!), but that doesn't seem to be a major issue with 20 MHz
>>>> channels and 256QAM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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