Ah... then they've changed that. It's been a couple years.
You don't really need to be afraid of international. First of all, the
rates to most countries these days are competitive with US termination.
Also, most systems let you install a dollar limit on international.
Don't remember if VoIP Innovations does that, but voip.ms certainly
does. Oh, and block SIP call requests on your phones or firewall!
On 04/06/2015 05:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
From VoIP Innovations website:
We deliver high-quality and competitive A-Z International Wholesale
Termination to fixed and mobile destinations in over 200 countries.
Our International Termination offering also has built-in
state-of-the-art fraud protection equipped with features like call
pattern analysis, suspect destinations, flagged IP addresses and
tagged numbers.
Allowing customers to make international calls scares the bejeebers
out of me though, then add in the possibility of SIP toll fraud.
*From:* Bruce Robertson <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2015 6:30 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
VoIP Innovations is also nice, but I just can't justify the $200/mo
minimum at the moment. So... I guess I agree with you!
One consideration though... VoIP Innovations does not do international
termination, or at least they didn't at one time.
On 04/06/2015 04:28 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
I use voip.ms for a couple of residential connections …. They work
well given the price of their service etc.
I would not entrust their service for important business “phone
lines” however …. Just my opinion. I would much rather have my
business connections served by a company that has invested into a
proper softswitch platform with high levels of redundancy (such as
Metaswitch for example).
Paul
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, April 6, 2015 6:55 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
Why not get SIP trunk, origination, termination, and DIDs from
voip.ms or similar? We use VoIP Innovations but they have a $200/mo
minimum. It looks like voip.ms has no monthly minimum, there is a $25
deposit which you replenish when you use it up.
Assuming you have existing numbers you want to port, you also need
backoffice support for the LNP process, and you need a relationship
with a CLEC that can provide origination (incoming calls) for the
NPA/NXX of that DID. A VoIP wholesaler like VI or voip.ms has a
bunch of CLECs they use for various DIDs.
*From:*James Howard <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, April 06, 2015 5:31 PM
*To:*mailto:[email protected]
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
Will you sell SIP trunks to anyone? What do you charge for them?
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, April 6, 2015 5:11 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I don’t know about most, but we will.
*From:*Lewis Bergman <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, April 06, 2015 3:56 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I had no idea that most phone companies would sell you a SIP trunk.
nifty.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You call up you local telephone company and ask for a sip trunk...
-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:30 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I expect there to be some cost, but these companies that want a
fortune for a small amount of minutes are ridiculous. I'm okay
with paying some amount for unlimited, but not a small amount per
minute.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
If you want to place calls to/from the PSTN and not pay a
dime, you're dreaming.
-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:19 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] VoIP
I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with
similar products. I'm not really all that familiar with VoIP
solutions or configuration, but if like to be. I want to
start playing around with something to really familiarize
myself with it.
The problem is that all I've seen is solutions where I'd have
to pay for my SIP trunk or for some kind of service. Is it
possible to get a fully functional VoIP solution using basic
hardware for nothing? I can host my own SIP trunk I'm sure,
but how do I get my phones to route to other phones and my
number coming in to route to my phone system? Am I in a dream
world, or is this actually possible?
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
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