Do you have a graph via SNMP of the actual SM traffic?  See if the AP is only 
scheduling the configured amount of traffic to the customer, and throwing away 
the rest.  If yes, the Procera probably gives you the tools to limit this 
traffic to X% of the customer’s subscribed rate, although it will still consume 
your upstream bandwidth.  If not, then your suspicion of Cambium sustained rate 
limit not working might be true.  We don’t rely on that feature as a primary 
means of rate limiting customers, so I wouldn’t necessarily know if it is 
broken.  If it is broken, I’m wasting a lot of money buying SM20’s.


From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:16 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..

I'm measuring at the upstream router which is actually a Procera Box. (not 
actually a rotuer) Customer called last night complaining speeds were 
horrible....



Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  Sorry to answer a question with a question, but are you measuring at the SM, 
or at some upstream router?

  The reason I ask, is I have seen some CDN traffic that does not seem to 
follow traditional TCP congestion control.  It will send at twice the rate 
limit, causing 50% packet loss to its own traffic and everything else to that 
same subscriber.  Evidently some TCP geniuses have decided to use latency 
rather than packet loss as the indicator of congestion, and that the objective 
is goodput not throughput.  Works for last mile technologies like T1 and DSL 
with big buffers at the head end of the fixed speed serial connection, not so 
good with the type of rate limit queues we tend to use unless we can provision 
the queues with big buffers.

  Probably not your problem, but I thought I’d bring it up just in case.

  From: Kurt Fankhauser 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 10:50 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..

  I have a 450 SM that is rate limited in the SM to 1500kbps download on the 
sustain side. I noticed last night that this customer was pulling a steady 
almost 3mbps download for several hours on end. How is this possible? Is there 
a problem with 13.2 firmware? Its a 3.65ghz SM.

  see attached.



  Kurt Fankhauser
  Wavelinc Communications

  P.O. Box 126

  Bucyrus, OH 44820

  http://www.wavelinc.com

  tel. 419-562-6405

  fax. 419-617-0110

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