The wireless internet portion of their income is probably less than 1% of their total revenues. This is more like a hobby for them.

Travis


On 5/21/2015 1:08 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can�t support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when connections don�t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the connection which then causes problems for other users because the flat-panel is too directional. I�m really not sure who is designing this but it reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can�t figure out is how that design gets past a technical and financial review. This is a multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have figured out that there weren�t going to get 50Mbps through a mesh system consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren�t going to be in line with the revenue/density.

Rory

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*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi
*Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint

I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites:

http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights

Joe Falaschi

e-vergent

On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:



I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the houses.

The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby drops.

Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at the schools etc.

And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to.

So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more fiber and for a better price they will switch.

We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already.

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]*On Behalf Of*Chuck McCown
*Sent:*Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] vivint

Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed with a backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn�t get close enough to see if it was licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof top. In a very heavy tree�d neighborhood. With trees taller than the houses. With a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down that street.

Wonder who will win in the end?


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