Haha, funny you mention that! Their recently former COO is now one of my customers. He was the Chief Ops Officer specifically for Vivint Wireless.
Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On May 21, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > 5 GHz with FSK doesn’t even penetrate walls and vegetation. Be interesting > to see what happens to their chief technology officer when the truth begins > to filter up to the C level. > > From: Rory Conaway > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint > > Vivint is also relaying through their internal/half-duplex routers to avoid > putting antennas on the roof. That was their original idea. They are > finding out that most people need outdoor installations. For some reason, > 5GHz with 256QAM doesn’t penetrated outside walls and vegetation. That’s a > handy piece of information to have when you are planning to spend tens of > millions of dollars. > > Rory > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint > > I have several customers on 3.65 links, so vivint doesn't interfere with > their signal. But I had one of these customers call me a week ago and tell me > they are having massive buffer issues. When I went to check it out I saw that > Vivint had put up a hub home right next door. My customer said it went up two > days before and that is when they started having their issue. So Vivint is > causing so much interference in the 5GHz area that people's home routers > aren't even working. I gave her a 2.4GHz router and she is happy now. > > So, even if you get the 50Mb to your Vivint device, you won't be able to use > it over your wireless network in 5GHz. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On May 21, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: > > Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on licensed > spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location costs, all > of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a non-TDMA mesh > protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they cause their own > interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can’t support the > density they need to make this profitable. Then when connections don’t work, > they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the connection which then > causes problems for other users because the flat-panel is too directional. > I’m really not sure who is designing this but it reminds me of the EarthLink > mesh deployments. What I can’t figure out is how that design gets past a > technical and financial review. This is a multi-billion dollar, > international company. Somebody should have figured out that there weren’t > going to get 50Mbps through a mesh system consistently with vegetation and > that the costs weren’t going to be in line with the revenue/density. > > Rory > > > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint > > I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites: > > http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights > > > Joe Falaschi > e-vergent > > > > On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > > > I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the houses. > The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby drops. > > Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at the > schools etc. > > And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to. > > So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more fiber and > for a better price they will switch. > > We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already. > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AFMUG] vivint > > Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed with a > backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn’t get close enough to see if it was > licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof top. In a > very heavy tree’d neighborhood. With trees taller than the houses. With a > bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down that street. > > Wonder who will win in the end? >
