I'm geographically far from Vivint but just the things I've been reading make it seem like a "too much money not enough engineering" business. But they're making so much money in other areas that they don't need to care. On May 21, 2015 2:08 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on > licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location > costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a > non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they > cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can’t > support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when > connections don’t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the > connection which then causes problems for other users because the > flat-panel is too directional. I’m really not sure who is designing this > but it reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can’t figure > out is how that design gets past a technical and financial review. This is > a multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have > figured out that there weren’t going to get 50Mbps through a mesh system > consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren’t going to be in line > with the revenue/density. > > > > Rory > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi > *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint > > > > I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites: > > > > http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights > > > > > > Joe Falaschi > > e-vergent > > > > > > > > On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > > > I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the > houses. > > The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby drops. > > > > Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at the > schools etc. > > > > And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to. > > > > So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more fiber > and for a better price they will switch. > > > > We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AFMUG] vivint > > > > Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed with a > backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn’t get close enough to see if it was > licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof top. In > a very heavy tree’d neighborhood. With trees taller than the houses. With > a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down that > street. > > > > Wonder who will win in the end? > > >
