I don't know about that...they are heavily invested in technology, Quantenna for example, just like Mimosa is.
Regards, Chuck On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm geographically far from Vivint but just the things I've been reading > make it seem like a "too much money not enough engineering" business. But > they're making so much money in other areas that they don't need to care. > On May 21, 2015 2:08 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on >> licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location >> costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a >> non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they >> cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can’t >> support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when >> connections don’t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the >> connection which then causes problems for other users because the >> flat-panel is too directional. I’m really not sure who is designing this >> but it reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can’t figure >> out is how that design gets past a technical and financial review. This is >> a multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have >> figured out that there weren’t going to get 50Mbps through a mesh system >> consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren’t going to be in line >> with the revenue/density. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites: >> >> >> >> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Falaschi >> >> e-vergent >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >> >> >> >> I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the >> houses. >> >> The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby >> drops. >> >> >> >> Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at the >> schools etc. >> >> >> >> And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to. >> >> >> >> So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more fiber >> and for a better price they will switch. >> >> >> >> We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed with >> a backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn’t get close enough to see if it was >> licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof top. In >> a very heavy tree’d neighborhood. With trees taller than the houses. With >> a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down that >> street. >> >> >> >> Wonder who will win in the end? >> >> >> >
