FWIW..... >>>>> They aren’t as good outdoor since they don’t have 802.11ac yet but with >>>>> the right antennas, they can dominate an area.
They do have 802.11ac radios.... pricey they are ! ..... http://www.xirrus.com/product-comparison/ As for outdoors, they take a different approach, while you can add antennas, they have an outdoor case that allows for mounting these large pucks .... :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:43:04 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > I know Xirrus better than I know Ruckus but Ruckus is pretty much the > standard for large scale, professional deployments nowadays. Their tools are > outstanding, their radios are capable of handling up to a couple thousand > users simultaneously, and their firmware/management tools are excellent, > including their security features. > Xirrus isn’t as big a player outdoor but the granularity of their > firmware/management tools is amazing. They have Procera firmware built into > every AP and every AP is essentially a controller by itself. They aren’t as > good outdoor since they don’t have 802.11ac yet but with the right antennas, > they can dominate an area. They can even do things like turn off beaconing > for 802.11b at 1, 2, and 5Mbps but leave it on for 11Mbps. Ruckus is easier > to install with integrated outdoor units but Xirrus is the next level up. > Indoor, Xirrus has no equal. > Rory > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > Very well said .. I like your summary …. > The “champions” description I compare to what I see deployed. Anytime I’m at > a sporting event, public place, office complex etc I’m always curious to see > what’s deployed for equipment (if I can see it). While I’m sure Ruckus and > Xirrus are good products for some folks, I have never seen their stuff > deployed. This doesn’t mean it’s good or bad gear … or going back to the > Ferrari analogy, just because you don’t see a lot of them on the road > doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the best built vehicles out there. > From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > I think it would be more productive of a comparative conversation if one was > to describe why (Technical feature wise) the Ruckus and Xirrus are > "champions" of the Wifi Space. > I shudder every time there is a comparison made between MFG. since all of > them make high-end and low-end stuff as well..... > The Strength of Ruckus WIFI solution is in the fact that their (most of them) > Radio's do Beamforming very well, and when the Controller is used, the > Controller will dynamically manage the Radios's Wifi settings and > parameters. > The Strength of Xirrus is, having recently looked at some XN8's, all I can > say is WOW !, if you forget the price for a moment, if anyone had a Dream > Radio Array features Wish List, guess what, they have all of those feature > built in..... It is a piece of equipment with multiple radios (4,8,16) a > combination of 2.4ghz and 5ghz radios which can be configured to pretty much > any configuration, combination you like.... > Does that mean that the above two is the only way to go ? No it is very much > possible to configure Unifi's, with the right product selection, to > accomplish similar results. And yes, if you are looking for a particular > feature set, you have to pay attention to which units you are using, because > all of the Unifi radios don't support all the features. > Regards. > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > > From: "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:34:09 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > I had a car analogy lined up, but I saw too many holes in my own analogy. > > > Ruckus and Xirrus are the champions of the WiFi space. They are the very > > best > > of the best. > > > UniFi is good enough for most situations and is considerably less > > expensive. > > > Cisco isn't winning any awards and is really only considered by people > > playing the IBM strategy. It's more expensive than the better options of > > UniFi and Xirrus. > > > ----- > > > Mike Hammett > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 27 , 2015 7:22:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > Well you haven’t provided any good reasons …. I’ve never used Ruckus/Xirrus > > to be honest and we don’t have the luxury of “trial and error” with > > products > > we’ve never used – so the reasons would be to be quite compelling. Always > > open to ideas … > > > Ben – you asked if we had contacted support… short answer is yes but I > > don’t > > have the details as it’s handled by another group…. > > > Thanks, > > > Paul > > > From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 26 , 2015 10:13 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > Then you want Ruckus\Xirrus, not Cisco. > > > ----- > > > Mike Hammett > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > > From: "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 26 , 2015 8:21:28 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > We have Unifi (non AC) version in our offices and it sucks … working on a > > plan to migrate to Cisco probably – complete opposite a > > > When the system is working well, it’s not bad at all but it doesn’t seem to > > deal with outside interference very well and often slows down to a snails > > pace. It also doesn’t handle video and voice very well most of the time > > despite traffic prioritization. I’d take a guess at around 120 users during > > the day and 30-40 users off hours (we run 24X7). > > > Also found the Unifi stuff doesn’t handle AP handoff very well at all … not > > even sure if it’s supported in the specs come to think of it.. I’ve read > > the > > latest generation has “seamless handoff’ though…. > > > I’ve deployed Cisco before and it’s definitely quite a bit more in cost but > > for our application, cost is secondary compared to performance/stability. > > > From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 26 , 2015 8:49 PM > > > To: Animal Farm > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI > > > Our local rez replaced all their Cisco gear and controllers with Ubiquiti > > AC > > Dual Band UniFi and software. Speeds and performance much better and easy > > to > > manage. The casino waitresses love the pos at customers tables and security > > knows where they are at all times. Used at both Speaking Rock and Socorro > > Entertainment Center..I installed two AC UniFi APs months ago for cattle > > association. Not one call...ave 75 to 150 users a day > > > Jaime Solorza > > > On May 26 , 2015 5:17 PM, "Craig House" < [email protected] > wrote: > > > > Got a 110' tower that belongs to a large campground that we are using as > > > a > > > tower site. Using Mimosa links to the tower and have 500+ MB of bandwidth > > > available to this tower. The campground area is about 110 acres and about > > > 1/2 of that has camp sites that we want to be able to provide paid by the > > > X > > > WIFI service. UBNT has a billing platform that I think integrates with > > > their > > > equipment and I will gladly use their equipment but I dont want to > > > recreate > > > the wheel here. This is not in my normal course of business but the > > > campground owner wants it and I think there is a lot of potential here > > > all > > > be it seasonally. Is the UBNT software good stuff? What are your > > > recommendations to type of AP's / Antennas / for such a setup. What is > > > the > > > best way to market this type of service? Free for basic minimal speeds? > > > then > > > sell a higher rate if they want it. Or Just bill for anything one lower > > > package and one higher package? Has anyone on the list tried this at a > > > campground and if so what mistakes did you make and what did you end up > > > using? Ive made enough mistakes in the past with other stuff. I have > > > learned > > > to ask you guys on stuff I'm not familiar with . > > > > > > Craig > > >
